Paradiso Gene 2016 Main

[Rafaelissimmo]

This fruit is so dang good, I have no words to describe it. One of my favorites. This did receive a head start in the greenhouse, it is a late to mature variety.

[Aljuwaisri]

I will add it to my wish list. Thank you Rafael

[Mgorski]

I love this one too Rafael. I never get a whole lot of them. This year we had a couple of freezes after the plants woke up from dormancy, so maybe this is why my plant only has small figs on it now. I waited to late to pinch, so I may not taste them this year. I will take cuttings so I can have one in a pot.

Mike in Hanover, VA

[jrdewhirst]

Agreed, it's a great tasting fig. I'm jealous. I don't expect any ripe ones here for another month.

[fitzski]

Thanks for sharing. I'll make sure I give my 1yr old a good spot in the GH in March/April to give it a headstart next spring.

[Rewton]

Thanks for posting - glad to hear this one is so good. I had a good sized P-G in the ground at my old place in Rockville but with all the cold damage the last three years it would always set fruit late. By the time it would ripen figs it was already late October and the flavor was ok but not nearly as good as if they ripened in hot weather. Mine had a good breba crop on it but (like Mgorski mentioned above) mine got hit with a frost in early April and it killed the partially developed brebas. So much bad luck with a variety that was growing for many years in the DC area before Gene found it. I'm now starting over at the new place with a P-G in a 1 gallon pot.

[zone5figger]

Rafael, that is a real beauty. Could you post a photo of the leaf pattern(s) on your PG?
Thanks you.

[Rafaelissimmo]

Fitski my leaves appear to match those posted below, especially the serrated edges.

[mountainfigs]

It's a super fig, no question. Is there any reason to believe that this fig is different from Ischia Green, which has been referred to as a formerly fairly common fig in the South?

This is a quite similar fig to Verte/Calverte. However, in my experience, and also per genetic testing, they are different. For me, Calverte has had thicker walls, a stronger form, and has ripened quite a bit earlier. Both have a similar intense blood red strawberry pulp.

[Rafaelissimmo]

Tony, I grow Green Ischia and I believe these are not related, with all respect. This is a larger fig, and a breba producer, unlike GI.

[mountainfigs]

I can believe they are different. I don't have an opinion on it. I had no success fruiting what was supposed to be Green Ischia / Ischia Green myself so could never direct compare. And then I can understand why people say Green Ischia is an underappreciated fig, because in a way no one really details it much, it seems. So it remains a bit of a mystery to me. Same with figs like St Anthony and Marseilles. Trying to sort that out conclusively too, at least to my mind. The difference between Black Madeira, say, and Ischia Black, etc, it's obvious even though I've never fruited Ischia Black. But with other figs, not so much, for me at least. What's a Violette de Bordeaux and not? What's a Palermo Red and not? What's a Mt Etna and not? Every year seems to bring new insights on this.

[jrdewhirst]

here're my photos



Most leaves like left, a few like right. You can see state of fruit currently, middle. These plants were pinched hard a month or so ago. Based on past pattern, the bigger figlets will ripen here, starting mid-Sept and peaking early Oct. This in-ground plant produced >100 figs last year, though some were quite small. The best feature of this variety is that it ripens good figs on any warm days in late Oct / very early Nov. Last fig last year was 11/11.

Tony -- you have Battaglia Green. That's the name I've seen more often as a synonym. No experience with it (or Verte, etc) myself.

[mountainfigs]

Joe, I also have Paradiso GM-9 in addition to Battaglia Green, though I do not have Paradiso Gene. Except that all three appear to be synonymous.

The person who found a fig he labeled GM-9 compared it to Paradiso and found no difference so called it Paradiso after Paradiso Gene: thus, Paradiso GM-9.

I've seen nothing to indicate that there is any difference between these three.

Calverte/Verte seem different from Paradiso/Battaglia as I've described. The question is Ischia Green/Green Ischia. Is it one of these two? Is it different? We could use multiple people who are growing some or all of these figs together to weigh in.

Is there some difference between Frank's Green Ischia (https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-h...en-ischia-2016) and the Paradiso Gene fig here?

This genetic testing (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...1/figure/Fig1/) found a Paradiso and Ischia Green to be synonymous (to the extent of the testing, at least), with Calverte/Verte different but not all that far off in relationship. Makes sense to me but I'm looking for more information. Trying to triangulate toward what's what.

[jrdewhirst]

Tony -- got it. Sadly, I have nothing to add that would qualify as information. But I'll be following the discussion with interest.

[vito12831]

Hi Rafael.
That looks delicious. Enjoy
Vito

[Rafaelissimmo]

Vito I have your airlayer.

[fruitnut]

I have now or have had Paradiso from Jon, Strawberry Verte from Jon, Bronze Paradiso, and Battaglia Green. The fruit of all is similar in taste. Strawberry Verte has the smaller figs but has been very productive. These are about as good as any fig I've tried so far.

[Rafaelissimmo]

See my comment below

[Rafaelissimmo]

I am away from home but have a pic of a 5-lobed leaf with the serration that matches the above photos. There are lots of different leaves on this one. I grow BG, GI and Paradiso Gene. Again, I am going to re-iterate that the Paradiso fruit is larger than GI and is bifera. GI is unifera. I will check my BG but I am pretty sure it fruits earlier than Paradiso at the very least.

[Rafaelissimmo]

Paradiso splits in rain, Strawberry Verte does not, nor does GI.