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  • Algerian Chetoui vs Smith

    A couple of weeks ago, the first Algerian Chetoui started ripening and shortly thereafter, Smith. I noticed some similarities and it seems like several others have also noticed it.

    They do have a lot of similarities. The texture and feel of the fig is very similar. The flavor is similar and some of the properly ripened AC have been equally as good as the Smith. None of these have been caprified so far so it is a fair comparison. The coloring is similar. The leaves are similar....

    At this point, I still think they are different but I would not be terribly surprised if they ended up being related. I will keep updating as the season goes on. AC did start ripening a solid week before Smith, despite Smith having the more prime location against my growing wall.

    In the first pics, with multiple figs on the plate, the top ones are Smith.

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    Algerian Chetoui
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    Smith

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    Eric - Santa Barbara, CA Zone 10a

  • #2
    That’s certainly compelling. Is it fair to say Smith is a little more vibrant red inside or is that just due to the camera?
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    • Evdurtschi
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      On this particular day, the AC were a bit brighter red but I have had it go back and forth. Also, some of the Smith were more ripe when I took them.

      Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they are the same. I see several small differences.

  • #3
    If AC is very similar to Smith that's a keeper for sure!
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    • swethakyadav
      swethakyadav commented
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      if AC is similar to Smith, why not just keep Smith as most have it already

  • #4
    Nice work
    Tom V
    San DiegoCa

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    • SubmarinePete
      SubmarinePete commented
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      Lanachka mentioned it. I didn’t believe it at first.

    • Lanachka
      Lanachka commented
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      Vinny Figs and Timo Fig have pictures posted on FB, their AC don’t look similar to Smith. It was just one picture that made me think it may be Smith.

    • Evdurtschi
      Evdurtschi commented
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      Lanachka Thank you for adding that info. I feel that they are different but they do have some similarities here in my climate. The void is a lot larger and more pronounced on AC and the flavor is more mild and sweet so far. I will be keeping a close eye on it and will update when I learn more

  • #5
    They look very similar if not the same, but even if they are different, they are very similar and I would only keep one of them if I have space limitation.

    what abou productivity, any key differences.
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    • Evdurtschi
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      Both are very productive. Figs all over the place

  • #6
    Is the timing / earliness the same as well?
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    • Evdurtschi
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      Seems to be very similar. AC was a week earlier but sometimes I see more of a difference than that with different trees of the same variety though.

  • #7
    Thank you for posting this comparison. I am growing both and, although there are some similarities, so far Algerian Chetoui and Smith have behaved like two different varieties for me.

    These differences could be attributed to different growing conditions (greenhouse vs outside, head start vs no head start, etc.). Also, my trees are still young and in the next years they might start to show more similarities.

    FWIW, my Algerian Chetoui produces mostly 3-lobed leaves, while Smith has more 5-lobed leaves. The shape and size of the figs can vary considerably for both varieties, but the Algerian Chetoui figs seem to have a broader and longer neck. Smith and Algerian Chetoui have a berry flavor, but Algerian Chetoui has that extra sweetness. Algerian Chetoui is a late fig that seems to need a longer growing season than Smith (but Smith is also a late fig for me). Finally, I'm under the impression that Smith handles the rain slightly better. Algerian Chetoui will split and crack easily in high humid conditions.

    Both are very good figs and keepers for me!

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    • SubmarinePete
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      You are in Belgium? Where did you get your AC?

    • SubmarinePete
      SubmarinePete commented
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      Great comparison, by the way

    • Evdurtschi
      Evdurtschi commented
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      Wonderful information. Thank you for sharing your experience.

  • #8
    Wow, this is a great comparison Eric! There aren't many people that could have pulled that off.
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    • #9
      Bass Timo I'm asking because I think the Bass version is connected to a variety called "Algerian Chetoui" by the locals in Syria/Lebanon, which might be slightly different than the one actually grown in Algeria. If you got yours from a different area, it might be a similar but slightly different fig.

      Despite general agreement on FB that the Bass fig was likely the same as the fig called Chetoui and grown in Algeria, there is the obvious issue of a fig called "winter" ripening at an early date (at least for me).
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      • #10
        Great info here!
        Excellent sleuthing!!
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        • #11
          Which is which? I have a few more that will ripen with in the next few days so I'll wait to post more...

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          • SubmarinePete
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            ZomVee I’m going to withhold judgement for a few days until I can try the others that are nearly ripe

          • don_sanders
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            So…. Was I correct?

          • ZomVee
            ZomVee commented
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            don_sanders Yeah

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ID:	1026203 Eric, your Smith figs are much more refined and fancier looking than mine! Must be the city life. Click image for larger version

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          • #13
            Great info on this thread. I think your climate does make quite a difference with Smith compared to Louisiana, but they do look like they could be relatives for sure.
            Tony; Pickens county, SC zone 7b

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            • #14
              Here is a video of my comparison along with a few more pics:

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              • #15
                This is my second year that my Algerian has fruited. It is a little milder than smith. To me it tastes like a mix between Smith and Chicago Hardy.
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                • #16
                  I had a short chat with a gentleman from Morocco yesterday about "Chetoui". I suspect that it is a class of figs as opposed to a single specific variety. Algerian Chetoui (Bass) is probably just one of the variants, IMO.

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                  • goodfriendmike
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                    I believe it to be like the Italian figs. There are so many black figs and so many green figs. It gets to the point where the names become Black (from where) or Green from (This city)

                  • MJA829
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                    The figs in the photos looks really good. Even you have one of them, if not caprified and grown in similar climate (mostly dry), its hard to tell if its the same IMO

                  • RedRockFig
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                    Thanks for the additional insight.

                • #17
                  ​ FDM have a Chetouia .
                  https://figuesdumonde.wordpress.com/...6/12/chetouia/
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                  • SubmarinePete
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                    I don’t see any description from FDM. I wonder where theirs originated from.

                  • Strell
                    Strell commented
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                    Chetouia (Algérie, Figues du Monde.This entry was posted in Uncategorized by figues du monde . Bookmark it with its permalink . I copied and pasted this from their webpage
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