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  • Marceilles White Surprise

    Haven't seen much here about this one here. I got it two years ago as a tissue culture. Tiny four inch tall plant less than the width of a Q-Tip. I've read several threads here about how good tissue cultures are. After one year, it grew, but no fruit. Now in Year 2, this one is three feet tall in a six gallon pot and I found a couple ripe figs on it. 35 grams and surprisingly tasty!

    Here they are:

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    Zone 7B/8A Wake Forest, NC. Wish list - 1. To stop murdering fig cuttings. 2. To find the biggest, juiciest, cold hardiest, most delicious common fig in the world! (and not murder it)

  • #2
    Looks great!
    Kevin, N. Ga 7b Cheers!

    Wishing all of you a bountiful harvest!

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    • #3
      @Michael

      I think this may be the Tena which has been labeled as White Marseilles. Post the leaf shape. Tena has yellow/sugar inside. Real WM has honey amber inside.
      Princeton, New Jersey, 6B
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      • #4
        Red_Sun, here's the leaf. What do you think?

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        Zone 7B/8A Wake Forest, NC. Wish list - 1. To stop murdering fig cuttings. 2. To find the biggest, juiciest, cold hardiest, most delicious common fig in the world! (and not murder it)

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        • #5
          This is not WM, Peter's Honey, or Lattarula/Italian Honey. Tena has long fingered leaf. The leaf in the back looks like Tena. The front one is closer to Brunswick.

          Most of the current circulated "White Marseilles" is actually Tena.
          Princeton, New Jersey, 6B
          flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/red-sun/albums
          http://growingfruit.org/ for all fruits

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          • Figwasp
            Figwasp commented
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            It is definitely a Tena. There is some amount of variability to Tena's leaves, making some of them have this look where the fingers are straight (less jaggedness) but with bulbing ends. I think that is what you mean when you say Brunswick? I don't have a Brunswick to compare, but I do have pictures of my Tena from this and last year. Last year it had leaves like this. This year fingers are a little more jagged, but still long fingers with short pams (sticking with the hand terms)

          • Red_Sun
            Red_Sun commented
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            Typical leaf of Tena is like open hand with 5 fingers straight out. Brunswick and a couple others have 3 longer mid fingers and more toward the middle. Fingers have rough edges, not like Tena's smooth edges. But lead shapes do vary quite a bit from time to time.

        • #6
          I did some Googling and I think I agree I have a Tena. It still tastes good, so I'm okay with that.

          Does anyone have any good links to a collection of fig tree variety leaves, so checking something like this can be much easier?
          Zone 7B/8A Wake Forest, NC. Wish list - 1. To stop murdering fig cuttings. 2. To find the biggest, juiciest, cold hardiest, most delicious common fig in the world! (and not murder it)

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          • Figwasp
            Figwasp commented
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            I think the consensus here is that fig tree leaves are rarely a good variety indicator by themselves. They can be used to differentiate a Tena from a White Marseilles, sure. But I don't think they could be used to differentiate between a Tena and Brunswick. The fruit, though, is a dead giveaway on that. For many varieties, all bets are off if all you have is a leaf pattern.
            Last edited by Figwasp; 08-13-2021, 02:51 PM.

        • #7
          Well, we get Fig Database and the old Figs4fun. Both are incomplete and not perfect. Some say we can't rely on them. But not everyone can analyze DNAs....

          http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html
          Princeton, New Jersey, 6B
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          http://growingfruit.org/ for all fruits

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          • #8
            The figs4fun database further confirms that I have a Tena, but I also have a young Lattarula, so maybe I have a Marcielles White after all, and I get to expand my variety list by one!
            Zone 7B/8A Wake Forest, NC. Wish list - 1. To stop murdering fig cuttings. 2. To find the biggest, juiciest, cold hardiest, most delicious common fig in the world! (and not murder it)

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            • #9
              Recently there is a nice discussion thread about White Marseilles, Lattarula/Italian Honey, Tena etc. That has been sorted out.

              The rest is not clear. Peter's Honey could be Lattarula/Italian Honey. Lattarola has a pink inside and is also in the mix....
              Princeton, New Jersey, 6B
              flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/red-sun/albums
              http://growingfruit.org/ for all fruits

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