Very Interesting Grafting technique

[Taverna78]

While I research something I see tis video on grafting. I can no wait to try tis. Anyone do tis or see before?

https://youtu.be/o1eR5OvlSoI

[BrooklynMatty]

Its very similar to the banana or four-flap graft method. I saw some guy who did the banana method successfully for figs on facebook. Very interesting method and you're definitely getting good cambium contact with that method. lol

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/earthkind/landscape/plant-propagation/the-four-flap-graft/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUaQ1Cj1cM

[ross]

The four flap method looks fantastic, Matt. I think I'm gonna try it.

[Taverna78]

Banana graft works well tho tis method is similar I would think tis could be better due to less open wound like banana grafting. Also I think tis is more of a bud graft vs a cutting graft

[ross]

Really cool, but I'm not sure the bark will peel/slide off like that on fig trees.

[Taverna78]

I know fig wood peel exactly like that. You must peel for banana graft. Notice how he peels in the beginning. Then squeeze and twist all way down?

[fruitnut]

That's a very neat budding technique. It does have limitations. It's only useful for long straight pieces of wood of similar diameter. And the bark needs to be slipping very well. The bark will slip like that if the plant is growing rapidly. If bark isn't slipping one would need to try something like chip budding.

Figs are easy to graft or bud. Anything I've tried so far that makes for good cambium contact has worked.

[Kelby]

This type is good for nut trees, as I understand it.

[cjccmc]

Where is the cambium on a fig tree when bark is slipping? Is it on the slipped off piece of bark or elsewhere?

[Taverna78]

Inside bark

[ThaiFigs]

I liked how he kept moving further and further down the stem until he got a tight fit. That's a detail that I hadn't seen illustrated before.

[cjccmc]

Here's what I don't get: If the cambium layer detaches and goes with the bark ring that was peeled off the scion, then where is the cambium on the rootstock for that bark ring to contact?

[fruitnut]

Conrad:

The cambium layer splits in two. The outer layer that's forming the bark goes with the bark. The inner layer that forms the wood stays on the wood. So when that ring of bark is slid down onto the stick of wood the two layers are again in contact and heal back together.

The cambium splits in two in the middle because the middle is where new cells of wood and bark are being formed. That's the actively growing part and the weakest.

When growth creases those cambium layers quit growing and fuse together. At that point the bark is no longer "slipping".

If the bark isn't slipping then grafting techniques that rely on slipping bark can't be preformed. Examples that require slipping bark are: T budding, patch budding, and ring budding as shown.

Other techniques can be preformed when bark isn't slipping like chip budding, whip/tongue, and cleft grafting. Those three techniques don't have full contact of the two cambium layers. The contact is that thin zone between wood and bark. You try to line those zones up as much as possible. That's what you were trying to do on that whip and tongue you posted about earlier.

[cjccmc]

Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. Thinking about that, a typical T-bud would have a relatively large amount of cambium contact and alignment is not so critical. A whip or cleft graft requires a fairly precise placement as the cambiums that need contact are very thin. True?

[fruitnut]

Yes when T budding alignment isn't critical at all. But getting the bud cleanly and fully under the bark is critical. To do that the bark needs to be slipping very well on the understock. If bark isn't slipping water heavily at least a week before trying to T bud.

On the other hand alignment is critical on whip, chip, or cleft. On those you even need to account for the difference in thickness of the bark.

[Taverna78]

Belle 👍🏼

[Blackfoot12]

Ahhh. this explains a lot. Been wondering about much of what fruitnut just explained. Pulls together a lot of pieces to now make a picture. Thank you fruitnut.

[Sas]

Very interesting, I wonder if this method will work with Jujube trees. The bark on those trees is very hard. I will definitely try it someday.
Thank You for posting.