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  • Growing weed in Ga.

    I guess I should have said weeds according to the forum member that provided me the seed.( you know your guilty) That is if they take over like you have warned me that they will. They have been planted in the ground now so we can see how fast they take off. I hope I can see fruit this year but if not next year any way. I would like to say thanks to everyone that is helping with this project. Any shared seedling information would be appreciated by those of us that are trying to establish the fig wasp in one areas.
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    Last edited by Hershell; 03-29-2015, 07:41 PM.
    Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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    Hershell,

    How many of the seedlings did you plant?
    Cutting sales on willsfigs.com started Nov 1 and will continue till about March 1.

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    • #3
      Theres 125 of them in four rows and there only 100 feet from the green houses and fig house. I kept them close so irrigation would be easy to install when it gets dry.
      Last edited by Hershell; 03-29-2015, 09:21 PM.
      Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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      • #4
        wow........
        Cutting sales on willsfigs.com started Nov 1 and will continue till about March 1.

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        • #5
          Hershell, could you describe the origin of the seed i.e. what parents gave rise to the seed? What kind of characteristics will you be looking for in the seedlings and how will you score the winners? Looks like a fun project!
          Steve
          D-i-c-k-e-r-s-o-n, MD; zone 7a
          WL: Verdolino, Figue Jaune, Nantes Maroc, Lussheim

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          • #6
            Most of the seedlings were from O'Rorke. Greenfig is my enabler and could chime in with some details. My goal is just to raise Capri figs and have enough to have fruit year round so the wasp will have a viable population. First I have to have adequate Capris and then get wasp. I'm not tryin in any way to evaluate new fig varieties.
            Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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            • Darkman
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              Hershell,

              You are a sick puppy!!! I think that is why we get along so well. If you can do this you will revolutionize what is considered to be marketable figs. You will easily have a two day lead on the Cali market to the East coast.

            • Hershell
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              Darkman, was you on duty or off when you first saw this thread? You might not want to admit who you visit, it could ruin your reputation here. Just look what happened to poor Wills.

            • Darkman
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              Actually knowing that one dozen or so hobbies isn't going to cut it for you I figured Georgia must have made growing "weed" legal!!!

          • #7
            Steve,
            As Hershell mentioned, he got the seeds from me. Here is the thread where you can see what seeds were sent:

            http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox....post1285501170

            I have a green and a black caprifigs nearby, any of those could have contributed the pollen. The germination ratio on my test seeds before I offered them was very high. I wouldn't offer the duds. Before shipping them, the sinking seeds were separated in a glass of water from the empty shells.

            I might offer them again if there will be any takers.

            A note about the seedlings.
            Based on my own experience growing a few and observation in the nature, the seedlings will grow really fast. Under the favorable conditions, they may get to 6 feet tall by the winter. Those are not your gentle cuttings, they are the wild beasts, they are programmed for a survival . They eat gnats for lunch because of the very strong and developed root system. They will produce after reaching about 6 ft in height. That is why you need to choose one leader and let it grow freely. After you see the first fruit and you like to keep the tree, do an airlayer of the top 2 ft, you can discard the rest. It is easy to do when the seedlings are grow in pots.
            I wouldn't plant the seedlings in the ground from the start in California. Their root system becomes too developed by the year end so it is really time consuming to remove an unwanted plant.

            I am curious how the other seedlings are doing. I think I shipped about 10 envelopes.

            Good luck with them! And be warned, they take no prisoners !
            USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: De la Roca, Lampeira Prush, Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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            • Hershell
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              Now that I know what to expect from the seed and how to separate and plant them I would like to get some more. That is if I don't get enough capri figs this year I would try another group. I'm sure there will be plenty and air layers can be done to propagate more but it's dificult to dial back the CDO (ocd alphabetized).

          • #8
            Here is a fig tree that was a tiny seeds last spring. It didn't go dormant and has been growing non stop. It is not mine but is growing not far from my house allowing me to observe it often.
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            USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: De la Roca, Lampeira Prush, Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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            • #9
              Hershell brought me down a tray of 20 and looking forward to what they will grow in to.
              Cutting sales on willsfigs.com started Nov 1 and will continue till about March 1.

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              • Hershell
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                I Wasn't going to squeal on you so I'm glad that you confessed on your own.

            • #10
              Based on what Greenfig said about how the seedlings grow it looks like Hershell's 125 seedlings will give rise to a fig jungle.
              Steve
              D-i-c-k-e-r-s-o-n, MD; zone 7a
              WL: Verdolino, Figue Jaune, Nantes Maroc, Lussheim

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              • #11
                Greenfig, are the neighbors wondering the source of the new weeds? How long have your trees been caprified or do you know and when did you first start seeing seedlings.
                Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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                • greenfig
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                  Shhh! Do not tell my neighbors ! I am still on the speaking terms with them

              • #12
                sorry for budding in but if your goal is to get caprifigs, and you are good at grafting, would it not be easyer to just graft on them with some capri darks and greens and get what you want this season? it could take years before you get caprifigs from seeds!!!
                andreas-patras Peloponnisos Greece zone 9a

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                • Hershell
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                  I have rooted several cuttings and members have sent me air layers that have figs on them but I just feel that I need more trees and seed were available. I currently have 12 small trees and still have some cuttings that are still in the rooting process. I don't think I will get too many and can always remove the ones I don't like.

                • Hershell
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                  Oh and the seedlings are just my backup plan. You can't say I don't prepare when I start a project. It's whole hog.

                • Hershell
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                  Yes. But first they must have capri figs.

              • #13
                Cool! You have covered all the bases!
                I was wondering, what is the primary goal of introducing the wasp with caprifigs, a possibility of the fig breeding or having a chance to grow the Smyrna figs or see if the wasp can be introduced in the area or all of the above?
                USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: De la Roca, Lampeira Prush, Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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                • #14
                  The reason is just to increase the size of the figs and try to get the best flavor. And it's just another challenge.
                  Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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                  • #15
                    Having never eaten a caprified fig I have to ask, how big do the seeds get?
                    Darkman AKA Charles in Pensacola South of I-10 zone 8b/9a

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                    • greenfig
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                      Did you mean the figs?
                      They are a bit larger, but the flavor is much richer and that would be the main reason, I guess.
                      Last edited by greenfig; 04-01-2015, 12:35 PM.

                    • Darkman
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                      I was actually talking about the seeds. Is it not the wasp that does the pollinating and that results in larger crunchier seeds?

                      Or am I way off base on this?

                    • greenfig
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                      I see. The seeds might be larger but I cannon guarantee or compare them to non-caprified of the same variety. In general, you could look at your seeds and any dried Turkish figs and compare, but again, they would be from the different varieties.

                  • #16
                    Hershell, did you tell Wills about the genetic modifications you made to his seedlings?
                    Bob C. KC, MO Zone 6a. Wanted: Martineca Rimada, Galicia Negra, Fioroni Ruvo, De La Reina - Pons, Tauro, BFF, Sefrawi, Sbayi, Mavra Sika , Fillaciano Bianco, Corynth, Souadi, Acciano Purple, LSU Tiger, LSU Red, Cajun Gold, BB-10 any great tasting fig

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                    • #17
                      Shhhh!
                      Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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