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  • Am I hurting this Black Madeira by not up potting?

    Do I need to up pot this Black Madeira? It does not have a lot of growth above the soil. It is just that I am not set up to deal with the larger container size yet, but if I am going to negatively impact the fig I will find a way to make it work. The pictures are all sides of the roots and one of the foliage.
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  • #2
    It can stay in there longer. I had plenty of trees with a lot more roots than that and then put them in 1 gallon later on. They grew to 5+ ft.

    Looks good
    May the Figs be with you!
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    • #3
      Give more time. With a great tree and great roots like you have pack that cup with roots.
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      • #4
        BrooklynMatty Thank you. This is my first time rooting cutting so I am super unsure of my self especially after my first watering disaster.

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        • BrooklynMatty
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          We all were there once. So no worries, that's what we are here for. Over watering is a normal mistake 1st time around. They are super resilient. Your good dude

      • #5
        Taverna78 Thank you sir that is the answer I was hoping for!

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        • #6
          I am happy to help. Just remember. WATCH THE WATER!! Once is ready to pot up it don't mean you can water crazy. Also make sure you include big chunky perlite or something to displace the soil. you do not want the soil to stay wet
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          2) This weeks ebay auctions.

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          • #7
            I was just wondering the same thing. I just ordered shelves to put square gallon pots on in front of window.

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            • #8
              It's impossible to tell from the photos -- did you punch drainage holes in the cup? If not, I'd do that. With a loose planting medium like yours, excess water will just seep out the bottom.
              Joe, Z6B, RI.

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              • #9
                Yes, 5. 3/8 holes at the bottom.

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                • jrdewhirst
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                  More than adequate. I think you are destined for figs!

                • Backyard_Fig
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                  !

              • #10
                The roots look perfect. Whatever you're doing continue doing it ! Don't rush perfection
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                1) Rest peacfully Amico Bello Buddy 👼🏼.
                2) This weeks ebay auctions.

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                • Backyard_Fig
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                  Your kind words are appreciated

              • #11
                Looks super! Congratulations! Nice to see you have established a good relationship with the Black Madeira....She is performing beautifully!
                Tony - Zone 6A
                WL- Good Health, a 60 lb Striped Bass, a Boone and Crockett Typical Buck, bushels of ripe Black Madeira figs, bushels of ripe Hachiya and other tasty Diospyros Kaki Persimmons

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                • Backyard_Fig
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                  Thank you the encouragement is awesome!

              • #12
                Thank you all for the encouraging words. I was explaining to my wife how positive and supportive this community is. ITS AWESOME!!!

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                • #13
                  I would give it a bit of fertilizer if you haven't already.
                  Steve
                  D-i-c-k-e-r-s-o-n, MD; zone 7a
                  WL: Castillon, Fort Mill Dark, White Baca

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                  • #14
                    Rewton it's funny that you should say that as I have a bag of fertilizer sitting next to me that I picked up in between appointments today from the local hydroponics store

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                    • #15
                      It looks nice. I tend to repot once the roots start searching out of the drainage holes. If it does not come out smoothly when you tip it sideways, tap the sides gently to loosen roots, sometimes they starfish to the container a bit. Just be careful not to yank on the cutting and break root bonds. You are doing great, keep up the good work!
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                      • #16
                        Evelynisgro Thanks!!

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                        • #17
                          Woohoo!! Strong work backyard_fig! You've already received great advice Im just here to sprinkle on some more compliments! 😉 Keep up the great work, you'll be eating delicious home grown BM figs before ya know it 👍🏼
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                          • #18
                            Jamie0507, Thanks for the encouragement!!!

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                            • #19
                              So the roots literally doubled in the last few days. So I decided to up pot for the first time. I have a few questions. The roots were sticking to the side of the cup is that normal(only one broke and it was about a quarter of an inch)? Is there anything to expect or look for over the next few days?

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                              • #20
                                Yes, normal.

                                Presumably you watered. Even so, there might be some shock due to root damage, which would be reflected in leaf wilting. If there is any wilting, I'd cover the plant in a plastic bag to retain humidity. But I wouldn't water any more for at least a few days. The wilting, if any, should disappear quickly (e.g., within a day) unless you inadvertently did severe damage. I think the plastic bag could then be removed a day or two after the wilting is gone.

                                In any case, I'd expect the plant to tread water for a week or so while it acclimates. Once the roots get going, vegetative growth should resume.
                                Joe, Z6B, RI.

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                                • #21
                                  I agree with anything Belle Jamie says 🤗

                                  Also remember. YOU asked 1000 people a question. You'll get 700 answers that confuse you or change your mind.

                                  You a took a bare stick. Put it in dirt and make it sprout roots.... continue doing what you have been doing. The one thing everyone agrees on is WATCH the watering. Less is more. Give it a couple weeks without looking at the cup. And you'll be amazed. Then is time bigger pot.

                                  Ive killed more rooted cuttings by "playing" with then too much.

                                  Just let her be and give her some time
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                                  1) Rest peacfully Amico Bello Buddy 👼🏼.
                                  2) This weeks ebay auctions.

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                                  • #22
                                    Taverna78 . I believe it was WillsC who told me it is much easier to kill a cutting with love then neglect. I know that is true I feel like "Elmyra"
                                    Last edited by Backyard_Fig; 02-16-2017, 07:06 PM.

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                                    • #23
                                      WillsC is very smart. He knows less is more. He don't care about roots. The color of roots the light that beams on the roots or anything else that has been questioned. He takes a stick. Puts it in the dirt and if it's meant to be it's meant to be. Sì there's some very little things to help it along the way but no too much. Between WillsC. Funny man and HarveyC. You ask them. The tell you. You listen. You succeed. And they don't use clear cups. So you don't see roots. You don't wanna fuss with them. I think the clear cup rooting method is like putting big sweet cake in front of a fat kid. He sees it ganna eat it. He don't he won't. Clear cup you wanna mess with it. Can't see roots you wait till you see leaf okay? Again apologies if I says wrong. Buon a notte
                                      Zone 5 Chicago IL Wish list:
                                      1) Rest peacfully Amico Bello Buddy 👼🏼.
                                      2) This weeks ebay auctions.

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                                      • #24
                                        I couldn't agree more Taverna78, really you were 100℅ right! Less water and in small amounts is crucial. One trick I would add, only for severe transplant shock. If the plant is transplanted and after a week still dropping you can sometimes cause it if the bud tips have new leaves coming soon by clipping leaves (leaving stems). The plant saves energy not having to maintain the leaves and can push new ones faster. Doesn't always work but if it's wilting a long time severely it is worth a shot! You are already off to a great start
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                                        • #25
                                          Originally posted by Taverna78 View Post
                                          WillsC is very smart. He knows less is more. He don't care about roots. The color of roots the light that beams on the roots or anything else that has been questioned. He takes a stick. Puts it in the dirt and if it's meant to be it's meant to be. Sì there's some very little things to help it along the way but no too much. Between WillsC. Funny man and HarveyC. You ask them. The tell you. You listen. You succeed. And they don't use clear cups. So you don't see roots. You don't wanna fuss with them. I think the clear cup rooting method is like putting big sweet cake in front of a fat kid. He sees it ganna eat it. He don't he won't. Clear cup you wanna mess with it. Can't see roots you wait till you see leaf okay? Again apologies if I says wrong. Buon a notte
                                          Fabio -- Thank you. This is the funniest thing I've read in weeks. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here like the fat kid watching the big sweet cake.
                                          Joe, Z6B, RI.

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                                          • Taverna78
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                                            Just don't eat your fig! 😂😂
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