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  • This weeks project.....

    After last springs injury and the resulting 3 month "vacation" the trees were not cared for and growth was poor. Our soil here, if you can call it soil is basically just fine white sand, (picture the stuff in an hourglass) and while the figs grow great in it there are not a lot of nutrients. Fertilizing here is not a bonus it is an absolute must for decent growth. Watering and fertilizing takes a lot of time.

    The first step was to replace the water supply system which was adequate for a home but not for all the plants. I could only water one "zone" at a time. We are blessed with a never ending amount of water and in fact the water table is only 6 feet under my butt as I type this. The old 4" well had a 1" line in it and a 1/2 HP pump. Removed that 1" line and replaced it with a 2" line and added a 1 hp and a 2 hp pump in parallel. The 1 HP comes on for light duty or household use but if more water is needed the 2 HP pump comes on and both run together. With an open 2" outlet it is basically a fire hose I still need to add a MUCH larger pressure tank but will get to that in time. The household water is completely isolated from the new system.

    Stage two was adding the ability to inject fertilizer and acid directly in to the waterlines. In the past I have used venturis but anyone who has ever dealt with those knows they can be VERY annoying and they reduce the volume of water delivered. The solution was to add 3 Dosatron A30's. These are used units and thanks to the wasteful nature of our government and schools they choose to replace these $500 per unit devices instead of fix them, so they were free (thank you Hershell). What was the cost to fix them? $8.49 each and about 3 minutes per dosatron. Plus another $30 to replace a nipple on one because Hershell said be careful of that nipple they break easily.....then I broke it 3 hours later.

    I still need to put the second barrel in which will be for the fig tree nutrients. Basically the two in series will feed the blueberry bushes acid and fertilizer and will draw from the same barrel, I needed two to have enough flow to do all 3 beds at the same time. They are controlled and actuated with a 1.5" solenoid you can see just past the dosatrons, unwired in the pic but now all wired in. From the fig dosatron the line leads to a 9 station controller and 8 solenoids (9th position is the BB solenoid) which is new and to two 4 station controllers so watering and fertilizing will all be automatic. Will now be able to water 3 zones simultaneous and could have been more than 3 but that would mean adding more smaller controllers and did not see the need to do more than 3 at a time. In the picture it was before the plumbing was finished of course. The project is far from completed as I have about 300 more feet of ditch to dig. Writing this is actually a way to procrastinate the ditch digging.

    Behind that wall is the well and the pumps which will be a pump house when I find the time to complete it.



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  • #2
    Wills,
    Thanks for sharing your installation info.
    Gives me encouragement since I'm installing a simple 6 or 7 zone drip irrigation system for the Potted Figs, Blueberries and Garden this spring.
    Pete R - Hudson Valley, NY - zone 5b

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  • #3
    Very nice! I often wish I had a well. But instead I must pay the outrageous municipal rates .
    https://www.figbid.com/Listing/Browse?Seller=Kelby
    SE PA
    Zone 6

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    • #4
      Wow. That's impressive. The mechanics are totally over my head, but impressive.

      When you mentioned your water table it reminded me of some plants at my kids' school. This was years ago. The church had really high ceilings and the plants were probably at least 15 feet tall. They had a planting area along the window. Somebody told me that the roots had tapped in to the water table. The plants were beautiful.
      Cheryl (f/k/a VeryNew2Figs) Zone 5a/6a
      What I'm growing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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      • #5
        Originally posted by CoolClimateFigger View Post
        Wow. That's impressive. The mechanics are totally over my head, but impressive.

        When you mentioned your water table it reminded me of some plants at my kids' school. This was years ago. The church had really high ceilings and the plants were probably at least 15 feet tall. They had a planting area along the window. Somebody told me that the roots had tapped in to the water table. The plants were beautiful.
        My property sits next to a lake so it is not surprising the water table is so high. Here due to the plentiful water, wells are shallow, mine is only 30 feet deep. I liked this spot because there is a series of lakes to my north so it helps buffer the cold and gives me a warmer micro climate.

        The mechanics are not complicated. The water pressure itself inside the dosatron creates a vacuum and that is what pulls the nutrient solution up and in to the water stream. The Dosatron is adjustable from .5% to 2.5% or something like that and can even adjust it while it is running. Then you just use solenoids same as if it was a sprinkler system in a lawn and same controller as for a lawn.
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        • #6
          Still over my head ;-) {but I did look up Dosatron}. If I ever get the rest of my life straight, I should take the time to look into an automated watering system for the edibles.

          Signed she who waters no grass...and she who's a little jealous of you living that close to a lake. I hope the fishing is good.
          Cheryl (f/k/a VeryNew2Figs) Zone 5a/6a
          What I'm growing: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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          • #7
            Uncle Wills.....someone who will NEVER be bored in retirement. You should have been an engineer Wills.

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            • #8
              You could always get a full time job so you can get some rest.
              Don - OH Zone 6a Wish list: Verdolino, Black Celeste

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              • #9
                Sheesh, dosatrons are beautiful! I was researching them for my drip automation setup that is 80% complete and will be controllable via my phone. I could not believe the cost of them, but they are the best in the industry and you gotta love that they are run off the water pressure, no electricity needed.

                I love that setup you got Wills, its awesome.
                May the Figs be with you!
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                • #10
                  There are some great acidic liquid fertilizers that can eliminate the need for injecting acid if your alkalinity isn't absolutely off the charts. Maybe you have one that isn't in the picture but be sure to put in a really good filter. Replacing the wear parts gets expensive without one.

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by Stekewood View Post
                    There are some great acidic liquid fertilizers that can eliminate the need for injecting acid if your alkalinity isn't absolutely off the charts. Maybe you have one that isn't in the picture but be sure to put in a really good filter. Replacing the wear parts gets expensive without one.
                    I didn't, but just ordered two filters, I do get some fine sand in the water.
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                    • #12
                      how many trees n ushes is that set up for?
                      i have i high tech drip irrigation system.
                      it's called a 5 gallon bucket with a hole in the bottom.
                      susie,
                      burner of trees
                      high plains, maybe zone 7.

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                      • Harborseal
                        Harborseal commented
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                        Are you sure your name isn't Lila?

                    • #13
                      Sounds like those tree roots will tap into the water table sooner rather than later. I wonder then what?
                      Tony WV 6b
                      https://mountainfigs.net/

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                      • #14
                        Originally posted by susieqz View Post
                        how many trees n ushes is that set up for?
                        i have i high tech drip irrigation system.
                        it's called a 5 gallon bucket with a hole in the bottom.
                        Susie,

                        300 blueberry bushes in 3 beds and about 400 fig trees.
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                        • Evelynisgro
                          Evelynisgro commented
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                          I'm in the wrong state lol

                      • #15
                        that's just amazing wills. a full time job.
                        susie,
                        burner of trees
                        high plains, maybe zone 7.

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                        • #16
                          That is really impressive! I hope all the hard work doesn't take all the fun out of it for you

                          You seem to be he sort who enjoys it
                          Guildwood Village - Toronto, Canada - Zone 6

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                          • #17
                            I'm retired, have to fill the days doing something Saturday I dug the trench around the pool cage to get to the other two blueberry beds so I could run the new 1.5" pvc line. I will say that Florida is the best state to dig in as there is no rocks in the ground and it is just pure sand. Did learn years ago though you have to watch the weather. I went out one day and dug a 12" deep by 300 foot long trench to run a new irrigation line and it took a few hours to complete. It was hot and I was tired and called it a day. Later that day and that night we had heavy thunder storms roll through and when I went out in the morning the trench was all filled back in....one of the joys of sand So then I got to do the entire digging process all over again......lesson learned, dig and lay the line same day lol.
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                            • Evelynisgro
                              Evelynisgro commented
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                              In Maine we have tons of rocks, hardpan is common as well. It is incredible the differences in different parts of the country. The same trench would take a few days good work by hand.

                            • Fygmalion
                              Fygmalion commented
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                              The road coming off the highway to my house is called Hardscrabble Road and it is called that with good reason... My whole area is City reservoir so lots of water and all those reservoirs are lined with lots of rocks... My gardening mantra consists of dig, lift, dig, lift, dig, lift...

                          • #18
                            Oh Wills... I hope you have a digger!

                            You remind me of something a retired friend always says - "The problem with retirement is that you never get a day off".
                            Guildwood Village - Toronto, Canada - Zone 6

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                            • #19
                              Originally posted by TorontoJoe View Post
                              Oh Wills... I hope you have a digger!

                              You remind me of something a retired friend always says - "The problem with retirement is that you never get a day off".
                              Yes I have a digger, it is called a shovel, a shoulder and some sweat
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                              • #20
                                Originally posted by Stekewood View Post
                                There are some great acidic liquid fertilizers that can eliminate the need for injecting acid if your alkalinity isn't absolutely off the charts. Maybe you have one that isn't in the picture but be sure to put in a really good filter. Replacing the wear parts gets expensive without one.

                                You cost me $182 btw Now have installed two sand filters, a 2" filter one on the 2" line that feeds the irrigation system and a 1" filter that feeds the house and low volume irrigation needs (2 pumps). There is already sand in them so it is money well spent. I would have to clean out the screen to the washing machine every couple of months.



                                Ignore the messy wires, will neaten things up later. It is a bad spot, full of freaking ticks. Luckily the ticks here can't carry Lyme disease, small blessings.


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                                • #21
                                  Very interesting Sci Fi Guy I shall reread this at the beginning of the day when old brain is rested. You need a trencher I am sure uncle Hershell will find you one behind a wood pile somewhere.

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                                  • #22
                                    A trencher would not do me a lot of good, there is a lot of irrigation lines.
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                                    • #23
                                      I picked up a mini escivator today and Wills is coming tomorrow and bringing a trailor. Where do you get all these ideas for these projects anyway?
                                      Last edited by Hershell; 03-09-2017, 08:33 PM.
                                      Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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                                      • #24
                                        Think you have a mission in life to make me spend my money.
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                                        • #25
                                          It's been successful so far.
                                          Nothing in the world takes the place of growing citrus till figs come along. Ray City, Ga. Zone 8 b.

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                                          • Fygmalion
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                                            Lol....
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