Are Petite Negri & Black Jack the same fig?

[rayrose]

I'm thinking of ordering these two figs, but have read where they are different names
for the same fig. Is this true? Does anybody grow this (these) fig and what are your
experiences. All responses would be appreciated. Thanks
Ray

[PasturedFigs]

I've got Negri and it is more of a Negronne/VdB type fig.

Have heard others class Black Jack with Brown Turkey, but I don't have one.

[SCfigFanatic]

I have a black jack.
It produces large very tasty figs.
I remember it being my favorite last year after eating it.
Last year was it's first year to produce.
I also have the petite negri of the same age.
It has not produced figs, it is much more compact fig than the black jack.
Hopefully the petite will give me a few this year.

hope it helps
Doug

[rayrose]

Thanks Doug, I just ordered one (BJ). Since you and I aren't
far from one another, I value your opinion very much.

[newnandawg]

Petite Negri is an excellent fig in my area. It did die back to the ground but is rebounding nicely. I rated it an 8-8.5 over
the last two years.

[rayrose]

Thanks Newnan, I value your opinion also. I hope to meet you and Doug in Charlotte.

[newnandawg]

I plan to be there ray

[Snaglpus]

No, they are not the same. Black Jack is a natural dwarf tree. Petite Negri is not a a dwarf but can reach 8 feet tall easily! If you're coming to my fig fest, you will see my 8 foot Petite Negri unless the ambrosia beetles got it. I have not worked on my orchard trees much this year and I can't remember if I chopped it down some or not. IMHO, PN has a better taste the BJ but all figs get better in time.

[SCfigFanatic]

So Petite Negri is not petite?
That's the first time I've heard that.

Doug

just re checking myself
a quick search shows a dwarf plant/
"Petite Negri is a large black fig with excellent flavor. One of the best producers for pot culture. The dwarf plant is very productive. Similar to Black Mission and Violet de Bordeaux fig and produces an early and late crop when potted."

[newnandawg]

My PN was roughly 6-7 feet tall before dieing back this winter. It already back up two feet tall.

[SCfigFanatic]

Mine must be a dud.


Doug

[COGardener]

So what constitutes a dwarf in figs? If non dwarf figs can get 20' plus in the wild, doesn't that make 8' dwarf?

[SCfigFanatic]

A search online states dwarf.
Suited to container growing.
Sure, a 8 foot tree will be perfect for container growing.
Just a real big container.
I thought it was normal that my PN was short and gnarly growing.
No biggie, maybe in time.

Doug

[mountainfigs]

I've noticed that Petite Negri can have some tendency to "short and gnarly" growth. I have a few in pots, some especially short, others with more typical fig tree growth. Doesn't seem to be the most vigorous cultivar, though a little extra attention to pruning and fertilizer on my part might make a big difference. When I saw that the leaf and fruit seemed very similar to VDB, Negronne, and other Bordeauxs, I didn't bother with extra care.

[SCfigFanatic]

I don't give any of my figs special attention. they grow or they go.
Figs will grow without fertilizer or pruning. I think it's best for a fig's first year.(edit: I grow in ground but only compost
or manure tea for the 1st year)
My PN has stayed short and kinda petite.
It is going on it's 4th summer.
I have no need to get rid of it and this year it looks it's best yet so I will let it grow.
Happy days.

Doug

[rayrose]

Doug, you've got more patience than I have.
Ray

[COGardener]

Another question. More fig name confusion..... I have seen it spelled Petite Negri and Petite Negra. I'm guessing the same with a misspell or are they in fact different?

[SCfigFanatic]

I have to hang my head and apologize.
I just came in from my orchard and...
I have the Abiqua(e) petite......and BJ
Dang, thought fer sure it was the same one first mentioned.

Sorry bout that
You might want to get the 8 footer too.

Doug