Gateway Fig Cultivars

**Kelby** · 02-17-2015, 10:10 AM

Mission, Desert King and Brown Turkey are certainly gateway figs. Maybe not the best, but those are varieties that get people interested in this obsession!

If someone who knew nothing about figs asked me what to get, I'd probably say Hardy Chicago.

I would say a short list of 5 for hardier figs would be: MBvs, Adriatic JH, Improved Celeste, Malta Black, and Takoma Violet.

**F. Bennett** · 02-17-2015, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Kelby View Post

If someone who knew nothing about figs asked me what to get, I'd probably say Hardy Chicago..

Agreed. Easy to grow and captures the grower's interest to see what other varieties are out there.

**Snaglpus** · 02-17-2015, 12:29 PM

Does gateway mean personal favorite?

**AscPete** · 02-17-2015, 01:05 PM

Dennis,
In this context Gateway refers to cultivars that are readily available, easy to grow, are relatively early ripening and taste good. It may or maynot be a personal favorite just a good overall fig.

**ChillynPhilly** · 02-17-2015, 01:55 PM

I think I am missing the sugar gateway fig (Celeste). Also, I did not realize that Conandria is an Adriatic type (ie green outside, red inside, right?). At any rate, it appears that I am missing an entire class of gateway figs. Must rememdy ASAP. Or, would Atreano count as a sugar-type fig?

**ChillynPhilly** · 02-17-2015, 02:07 PM

Oh snap, I have Golden Celeste! It was the first one ever, a start from Barry 2 years ago. It didn't produce any figs yet. Last year, it came back from the dead in mid-July or so. Maybe I'll taste it this year. Pete, do the Adriatics all have green skin?

**joann1536** · 02-23-2015, 12:32 PM

West Coast would probably have to include Mission, as it is readily available and does well. Some of the Missions around here are ancient.

**cyberfarmer** · 02-23-2015, 05:20 PM

OK, so now that my humidity tent is full of RdB, Nero 600M, Smith, Stella, Preto, Col de Dame and a few other of what I think would be considered top tier figs, what am I supposed to do with the 30 or 40 "gateway" figs I started last year?

Just because a fig is readily available, isn't it still worth growing? Seems like there must be a reason these ones have become so common.

**AscPete** · 02-23-2015, 05:38 PM

Paul,
The Gateway figs designation refers to figs that could be recommended to beginners in the hobby due to good flavor, ease of culture and availability...
I personally grow several different cultivars of the same named Gateway figs, trying to find the cultivar that grows best in my location.

The point is exactly that, they're readily available, they could and should be grown by most everyone. These particular cultivars will provide an introduction into the various fig flavors with the least cost and investment of time.

**cyberfarmer** · 02-23-2015, 05:48 PM

I recently asked a question in... some other fig forum. I wanted to know which of my current cultivars would be good candidates to use in my fig cordon. My options included VdB and Vista (among others), which I thought were both supposed to be very good. The general consensus was, don't use ANY of my current cultivars and wait for something better.

**FMD** · 02-23-2015, 06:04 PM

LOL
Gateway Fig
a fig (such as Celeste or Hardy Chicago) that is thought to lead to the use of more dangerous figs ( Black Madeira or Galicea Negra).

**Gina** · 02-23-2015, 07:10 PM

What to do with the gateway figs you have decided not to keep? I give mine to anyone who wants one. They are good, so why not? I have purposely killed a few trees because I thought they were absolutely mediocre and didn't want anyone to have something substandard and hence negatively judge figs - Brown Turkey does enough of that. But true gateway figs that could lead one to a more serious habit? They should live.. just not all of them in my yard.

**PasturedFigs** · 02-23-2015, 08:40 PM

Frank - exactly what I was thinking - gateway figs lead to those more dangerous for your wallet.

Isn't your gateway fig a slightly regional affair? Like for instance Black Mission for the West Coast, Celeste and Brown Turkey in the South, and Unknowns from the Italian/Portuguese next door in the Mid Atlantic/New England area?

On the other hand, forums like this one make all sorts of first figs possible. My first figs were Adriatic JH and Marseilles Black VS and they were followed shortly by Sal's Corleone. I don't think those would have been my firsts if the fruit hadn't already been spread so popularly by others.

**SharonC** · 02-24-2015, 12:50 AM

A gateway fig could almost be any good fig in the that does well in that region. I mean how many times do you hear a new comer say "i tasted my first fresh fig and it was awesome". If you never had a fig than even so-so is pretty darn good. It's sort of like wine. First you think I'll never be one of those wine snobs, then you drink some good wine for a while then you try and go back and the cheap stuff doesn't taste good anymore. The wine didn't change but you did.

**cis4elk** · 02-24-2015, 02:27 AM

Another vote for Hardy Chicago in the Dark, and VdB or Petite Negra(RT) for the Bordeaux category. The other categories I can't give reliable info to recommend anything. I gave my only honey fig the axe because it wasn't working out for me(PH), I gave away my only sugar because it dropped all it's figs(guess who?), I have only had one Battaglia and it was outstanding but I can't make any recommendations off of one adriatic type fig.

**AscPete** · 02-24-2015, 10:38 AM

Calvin,
Thanks for commenting.
Italian Honey, Lattarula, St Anthony are similar cultivars that are Honey types...
Green Ischia and Verte are Adriatic types and are just as flavorful, while being easier to find in the commercial trade than Battaglia.

**eboone** · 02-24-2015, 12:26 PM

Don't laugh, but for me the 'Gateway Fig' was a package of dried Pajarera figs bought at a Kroger supermarket. In my wife's family it was a custom to give dried string figs in Christmas stockings, and that was the main exposure to figs that I had for decades - they were hard and chewy. I saw a bulk package of these small dried light brown figs and picked them up to try. I really enjoyed them, and my wife said 'why couldn't you dry your own'? We had just dried a bunch of pears and apples that were outstanding. I did some internet searching and found the F4F forum, found that people were actually growing figs in the north (news to me), and so the hobby started.

**AscPete** · 02-24-2015, 12:35 PM

Ed,
Nice anecdote....

**Harborseal** · 02-24-2015, 03:10 PM

Aren't Gateway Figs the ones that are white with black curved spots on them?

**Gina** · 02-24-2015, 04:24 PM

#13.1

AscPete commented
Yesterday, 04:20 PM

Do you have any particular cultivar that you consider "Gateway" in addition to Mission?

Mission was the one specific one I could point to. After that, at the very end of the cutting season (so I thought)(and before I learned of people's generosity), I did as much research as I could in a couple days about what did well in SoCal, and quickly ordered about 10 varieties of cuttings from ElEncanto. Shrug.... It was good practice learning how to root things, but for the most part, I've either destroyed or given away almost all of those. They were good to learn what types of figs I really like - for the most part, rich ones with lots of flavor. Not super-sweet. But I'm not sure I"d call those 'gateway' figs but rather 'training' figs.

**Kelby** · 03-05-2015, 07:10 AM

I was thinking this morning about this, herman2 listed these 5 as "beginner" figs for colder climate growers (through zone 6). It doesn't cover all the flavor groups, but it is a good list:

MBvs

Adriatic JH

Improved Celeste

Malta Black

Tacoma Violet

**Rigo007** · 01-03-2019, 07:50 PM

I bring up an old thread for following AscPete All I've seen here is brown Turkey and one they called "king's which now makes me think its desert king. Not much digging around my area.

**Efficial** · 01-03-2019, 08:26 PM

One single brown turkey was all it took! Now look at me I got several of my friends and family hooked! and I'm "jones-in" for my "good stuff" cuttings to take me away!

**BlueEagle1967** · 01-03-2019, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by AscPete View Post

There are a few easily available, hardy, productive and tasty cultivars that may be considered "Gateway" figs. My personal gateway figs were also selected by flavor group. These would be my recommendation as introductory cultivars. They also increase the length of harvest with early, mid and late season cultivars.

Honey... Italian Honey
Sugar... Celeste
Adriatic... Conadria
Bordeaux... Violette de Bordeaux
Dark... Hardy Chicago

What cultivars do you consider to be Gateway figs?

Good list Pete with one exception. Conadria may be a readily available variety but I'd never have it represent my Adriatic flavor profile if I wanted one of each. It's a waste of a fig tree, IMO. It's a soggy bag of water and it's known for being just that. I had a lot of figs off my second year tree; I'd give it an "A" for growth and production and a big fat "F" for taste and quality. Granted, I'm a relative newbie in the Northeast and we had a wet summer but it was one of the first fig varieties I acquired and I'm pissed to this day that someone sold me this substandard excuse for a fig. I guess you can tell what I think of it........

On the other hand, VdB is one of the best tasting and readily available varieties and should be a mainstay in anyone's collection. Good list and good topic.

Gateway Fig Cultivars

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