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I know several folks no longer read at F4F, so I am cross-posting here. You might have read on the JF&E Black Maderia discussions or purchased one so this might be helpful. I am glad to hear JF&E is trying to make right with folks.
I was finally able to make contact with the person that Brandy named as the source for the cuttings of the group of Black Maderia cuttings starts I discussed with her about not being correct in Fall of 2013, and which I believe are what many of you received. He did confirm that he did send cuttings to JF&E. I am not going to identify them here in respect of privacy but will share part of that discussion here. They are very knowledge about growing fruits in general, figs as well as many other plants, but probably not as obsessed with figs as most of us, and I really enjoyed speaking with them.
They have never grown Black Maderia, but have heard of the fig. I don’t believe he has any fig from Maderia that he is aware of, so maybe JF&E confused the actual source of the cutting in our conversation or the mixup occurred at some other point. They did not recall exactly what cuttings he did send to JF&E, but he is quite familiar with LSU figs and lives in LA, and when I asked about possible black fig suspects LSU Scotts Black Name did come up, but I have not did that compare myself yet as a possibility.
JF&E does have that potted mother tree from USDA UC Davis, and has put out valid BM trees. The small unhealthy looking tree I picked with the earlier start date in that fall 2013 visit as I stated in prior posts is dead on to my USDA UC Davis tree. I wish now I would have picked up one of the others just for comparison. So some of you might have received the true BM. Really a pretty easy call if you have ever observed a true BM, as the other plant is quite different from what I have seen. Just an idea but I believe Dennis thought his looked correct and I believe he stated ordering the last 3 they had available. Maybe those last couple trees left that had been picked over for lack of vigor and generally less healthy looking were true and showing the character more consistent with most BM.
I was finally able to make contact with the person that Brandy named as the source for the cuttings of the group of Black Maderia cuttings starts I discussed with her about not being correct in Fall of 2013, and which I believe are what many of you received. He did confirm that he did send cuttings to JF&E. I am not going to identify them here in respect of privacy but will share part of that discussion here. They are very knowledge about growing fruits in general, figs as well as many other plants, but probably not as obsessed with figs as most of us, and I really enjoyed speaking with them.
They have never grown Black Maderia, but have heard of the fig. I don’t believe he has any fig from Maderia that he is aware of, so maybe JF&E confused the actual source of the cutting in our conversation or the mixup occurred at some other point. They did not recall exactly what cuttings he did send to JF&E, but he is quite familiar with LSU figs and lives in LA, and when I asked about possible black fig suspects LSU Scotts Black Name did come up, but I have not did that compare myself yet as a possibility.
JF&E does have that potted mother tree from USDA UC Davis, and has put out valid BM trees. The small unhealthy looking tree I picked with the earlier start date in that fall 2013 visit as I stated in prior posts is dead on to my USDA UC Davis tree. I wish now I would have picked up one of the others just for comparison. So some of you might have received the true BM. Really a pretty easy call if you have ever observed a true BM, as the other plant is quite different from what I have seen. Just an idea but I believe Dennis thought his looked correct and I believe he stated ordering the last 3 they had available. Maybe those last couple trees left that had been picked over for lack of vigor and generally less healthy looking were true and showing the character more consistent with most BM.
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