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  • Five unbelievable things about Wills you would never guess...

    Just practicing my click bait headlines for a future career as a poster of stupid internet questionnaires and self tests that tell you absolutely nothing about yourself. This post has bupkis to do with Wills. It has everything to do with a mostly unknown (duh!) variety and thus far my best fig of the season, Unknown El Molino from Igor. Here's a few pics plus commentary:

    The larger fig on the left is RdB and the small sucker is Unk. El Molino. The El Molino was far superior to the RdB, which admittedly have been a bit disappointing, though still pretty good this year. Even last year they were not nearly as good as the El Molino, which would have rated #1 of the 40 or so varieties I sampled from my collection last year. The only fig I recall eating that was superior was a likely caprified CdDN at Harvey's place, which remains the single best fig I've ever eaten.

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    With that in mind, neither my fig nor my leaves (nice shoes!) look much like Igor's photos from the F4F thread introducing his find.

    http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox....tlican-6990796

    My tree comes direct from him and is in its second year in a 2 gallon pot, so comparing it to a large, in ground tree in a different climate isn't really fair. I believe the figs he shows in his thread are pollinated, while my two are not. Still, the bright red stem on my figs do not at all resemble the stems from the mother tree. What appears to be the same, however, is the taste: bright, sharp raspberry notes, complexity and moderate sweetness. This is an intense fig. I got only two this year and the one still attached to the tree belongs to my lucky wife. I'll be potting this tree up to a 10 gallon container and hoping for explosive growth, fantastic production and larger figs next season.

    It should be added to all wish lists of folks who like some acid in their figs and have space for another premium variety. (Sorry, Igor, you will now be inundated with requests, but distributing this tree is an absolute must).

    Thanks, Igor.
    Last edited by Posturedoc; 08-21-2015, 04:18 PM.
    Neil
    Reno, 6b

  • #2
    Thanks for sharing the photos and info...

    Hope this helps... A location has to be selected with the mouse cursor, then the photo size (medium) is selected to place the photo in the post.
    Pete R - Hudson Valley, NY - zone 5b

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    • Posturedoc
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      Thanks, Pete. Now all I have to do is figure out how to post the thumbnail pics that take you to the slide show. I suppose you've explained that in another post, so if you link it, I can take it from there.

    • AscPete
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      Neal,
      You're welcome.
      To get the 'Photo Album' select the Album Icon (Camera) on the top Left of the Text Box of the post... You can then select to upload photos from your hard drive or a web link. Good Luck...

  • #3
    Wow, sounds great, but not sure about my interest in another small fig. Tempting, though.... dang!

    P.S. Great job on the thread title!
    My fig photos <> My fig cuttings (starts late January) <> My Youtube Videos

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    • #4
      Harvey, looking at the figs coming off of the mother tree in Igor's F4F thread, they are much larger than my two tiny things. They look much different too. I don't know if that's because of caprification, location or tree maturity, but other than greater heat than SoCal and a few short years for your tree to mature a bit, I'd expect the figs off of this variety to look similar to mamma.

      Maybe Igor managed to fruit one of his starts this season and he can show us some pictures of it/them.
      Last edited by Posturedoc; 08-21-2015, 04:13 PM.
      Neil
      Reno, 6b

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      • #5
        They both look like RDB to me. But who knows. The smaller fruit manifestation of the one ... due to ...? might make it more tasty?
        Tony WV 6b
        https://mountainfigs.net/

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        • #6
          They are similar, Tony, which is why I thought to put them together for my photos, but the taste of the El Molino was much better than any RdB I've eaten, and last year my RdB produced some very nice figs. I suppose Igor could have mislabeled the tree he sent me (I'm perfect, couldn't be an error on my part) and I now have a third RdB (liked it enough last year to keep an extra I rooted...I've only got five duplicates out of about 100 varieties that I think are good enough to warrant more than one representative in my collection, if that tells you anything). I'll examine my trees again tonight and compare. At this point I think they are distinct varieties. I sure hope they are, anyway. Igor might be able to shed some light here.
          Neil
          Reno, 6b

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          • #7
            Whaaaattt??? My El Molino captured the headlines!! So, does it mean it is a common fig?
            Neil, you do not have the wasp, correct (you mentioned that, but making sure I read it correctly in all the excitement )

            Yes, it is a supeb fig in the SoCal, and I am happy that it has not disappointed outside the wasp belt too.

            Harvey, it is not a small fig on the mother tree at all, I am sure the caprification helps, it is larger than a RdB I have from Vasile. It is a healthy tree also, no signs of the FMV.

            Neil, thanks again for the good news!!

            About you photo request. I took a few pics a while back because it is one of the earliest figs to ripen here, the mother tree has almost none figs left. This year they look exactly last the last and like in the f4f thread you mentioned.
            I rooted many cuttings for myself but gave away almost all of them (the nicer ones) so none of what has left fruited for me.

            About the mislabeling. I am perfect too but things may have happened as well. Usually I keep different varieties separately. We can wait for somebody else’s repot too, just in case.
            I do not remember, was the stem labelled on the El Molino?
            Last edited by greenfig; 08-21-2015, 04:58 PM.
            USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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            • #8
              No wasp here, Igor, though I'm working on getting a colonized caprifig or two in the future to see if I can keep them alive and pollinating around here.

              Do you have any pictures of the tree(s) you rooted and kept for yourself? Maybe your leaves will look similar to mine on a young tree...though we know that doesn't prove anything either. I have to ask, did you root RdB last year too? I know my tree is from you, because the potting mixture you use is different than my own, and though I potted it from a 1 gallon to a two gallon pot last fall, your mix is still evident in the pot.

              It appears that until other Unknown El Molino owners chime in and share some thoughts and pictures, nothing about my claims in this thread is certain.
              Neil
              Reno, 6b

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              • #9
                I do have a few young trees and will take some photos when I am back from work tonight or tomorrow.
                Although, if I recall the RdB leaves, they look differently from pictured above.

                No, I had only rooted the RdB last November, didn’t have any in 1 gal pots when I shipped you the El Molino for sure, no chance.
                Also, I do/did not have any figs that look like RdB.
                USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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                • #10
                  Neil, that is great news! I have 3 of these in 5 gallon from my friend Igor (Thanks, Igor), and was waiting to see if it is a common before putting one in ground. Mine won't ripen figs this year, but they'll be ready next year. If it tastes better than RdB, this will be a very popular fig. Here is a leaf of mine. Got kind of burned over the weekend, we hit 100 degrees.
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                  Gary USDA 9A
                  Sebastopol, CA

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                  • #11
                    I was one of the folks that got extra "El Molino" cuttings tossed in with my batch of requesteds. Definitely glad the topic caught my attention (cuz seriously, who wouldn't want juicy bits on Wills?). Here's pics of mine, taken just now, that were rooted in February:




                    It seemed to want to grow as a step over. A beautiful plant with fruit I can't wait to try hopefully next year.
                    Alma from Maryland 7b

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                    • #12
                      Thanks for the post and pic, Gary. Igor's post about not starting RdB until November tosses that possibility out the window, and your leaf looks a whole lot like my leaves. Then we have Alma showing how much different (and larger!) leaves can be depending on climate. Still, the leaves do resemble what I'm growing. Here's another leaf pic I took that looks even more like yours than my first photo. I know it's still a little premature, but it appears, Igor, that your find is a common fig after all, and it's a winner!

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                      Neil
                      Reno, 6b

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                      • #13
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                        • nepenthes
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                          Congrats on finding a winner, Igor

                      • #14
                        Nice! I also have a tree (thanks, Igor!), and its leaves look like the others. No fruit yet, fingers crossed for next year.
                        Sarah
                        Bay Area, CA (zone: 9B)

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                        • #15
                          Neil, love the capture headline! But the story behind it was much better, especially since I also got one of these and am hoping for fruit next year! Thanks for posting about it!

                          And thanks Igor for adding it to our bundle of cuttings!
                          Von, Northern VA 7a

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                          • #16
                            Ok the headline scared the hell out of me......

                            Now I want the dang fig, thanks a lot Neil.
                            Cutting sales have ended for the season. Plant sales will start March 1 at 8 eastern time. If it is still too cold in your area I can hold your plants till a date of your choosing.

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                            • don_sanders
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                              Hehe, I was beginning to think that I was the only one without one :-)

                            • greenfig
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                              Don, remind me in December

                          • #17
                            Lol, Wills, no worries

                            Guys, I checked my this year 2 rooted plants and found one with figlets!!
                            Slightly different leaves but still similar. They are in 1 gal pots.

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                            • #18
                              Igor gave me one plant and I rooted three cuttings. Three trees are around 4 feet tall now in five gallon pots but no figs yet. I think they have to be pinched at the ends to stop growing and make figs. The new leaves after moving them up to five gallon pots show a little FMV and a dose of Iron/Zinc didn't help green them up. The little tree came from an EM cutting that showed roots but no sprout for months. Then, suddenly, a green sprout appeared around an inch from the cutting and is growing slowly. I guess I should spend more time pinching my figs and less time on the computer.
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                              • #19
                                Wow! I am happy to see they root easily and grow so nicely! Congrats!
                                I intentionally kept mine in small pots to see the figs sooner. In large containers they grow leaves and roots first
                                USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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                                • #20
                                  Originally posted by greenfig View Post
                                  Wow! I am happy to see they root easily and grow so nicely! Congrats!
                                  I intentionally kept mine in small pots to see the figs sooner. In large containers they grow leaves and roots first
                                  You have a point there. As an experiment, I rooted three Unknown Owensboro cuttings back in March. The tree on the left I put in a five gallon pot, pinched recently, and it has two figs. The tree in the center was moved up to a larger pot at the same time, pinched earlier, and has no figs but is branching out. The tree on the right I kept in a one gallon pot, and it has five figs on it. Europeans make a big fuss about containing fig roots to make more figs, so there's probably some truth in it. But the figs in the larger pots are easier to maintain. They don't dry out as fast and hopefully will make more figs next year.

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                                  • greenfig
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                                    I totally agree with you, it is easier to maintain the figs in the larger pots, especially when they are upside down.

                                  • Altadena Mara
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                                    The pictures are right side up on my Windows computer, but I just checked them on my iPad and they're upside down. I wonder why that is? I edited them, rotated them 180 from my originals, cropped and saved them with Windows. Why would their display be different with different OSes?

                                  • greenfig
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                                    No clue. We should blame Apple for this, upside down on my iPhone

                                • #21
                                  Since this was a couple years ago, anyone successfully ripen El Molino (for sure) outside of wasp country? I have a couple out there with figs on them but would be nice to know if I should put much stake in them ripening here Also any more tidbits on Wills?
                                  2021: The year of figs and a new love of Citrus thanks to http://www.madisoncitrusnursery.com

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                                  • #22
                                    Mine are turning yellow and falling off again this year
                                    Don - OH Zone 6a Wish list: Zaffiro, Moro de Caneva, Nerucciolo d'Elba, Bordissot Blanca Negra, Rubado

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                                    • #23
                                      I was kind of worried about that. I have 6 or 7 cuttings that took and are growing well. At the very least it will make for some great rootstock I guess.
                                      2021: The year of figs and a new love of Citrus thanks to http://www.madisoncitrusnursery.com

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                                      • #24
                                        Interesting, so sometimes it drops and sometimes it keeps the figs or what?
                                        USDA z 10a, SoCal. WL: Raspberry Tart, Boysenberry Blush

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                                        • #25
                                          LOL! What?!?! When I clicked on this post I thought there would have been compromising pictures of Wills in his early figging days... "I was young, and needed the money!"
                                          Guildwood Village - Toronto, Canada - Zone 6

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                                          • LouNeo
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                                            "20 bucks is 20 bucks..." sort of thing

                                          • TorontoJoe
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                                            lol!
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