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I have a young Yellow Long Neck (tissue cultured), that is perhaps my most vigorous fig. It's fruit has been impressive, and I have high hopes for it. Does it also go by the name Long Yellow?
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W. PA., Pittsburgh, zone 6b USDA, but more 5b, realistically. All pot grown fig trees, no in-grounds. -
You can find various opinions on this here, and also elsewhere on the forum if you do a search:
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I am aware of the question being presented before. My question is, "Is there anyone who knows FOR SURE if Yellow Long Neck and Long Yellow are the same fig, and if not, what is the distinction? " -
To know for sure is not as easy as it sounds. A person may grow one of each side by side and ascertain that there is no difference. But how does that person know for sure that both or one of the two are correctly named? YLN may have been misnamed LYN, or vice versa. It's easy to make the mistake.
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Do you have a picture of the fruit? Since you praise it so much
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i grow YLN in potted culture, very vigorous growth and production. probably my #1 in growth/vigor, and #2 in production after my Dr. Gowaty. biggest figs of all my varieties also. taste has been hit or miss for me, mostly miss. but i think that's due to my learning curve, rather than the fig itself.Los Angeles, CAComment
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I have fruited both; couldn't see any difference.
I'll add more detail of my experience here, since there seems to be some complications involved.
My Long Yellow is from Encanto.
I was curious, so bought the tissue culture Yellow Long Neck from Wellspring Gardens, and it has seemed identical to my Long Yellow. That is what I have experienced firsthand.
Complicating things is this fact, there exist two apparently slightly genetically different figs, testing has found, that are called:
Long Yellow DFIC 258
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Long Yellow Furtado DFIC 285
Also, complicating things is that another different fig seems to have been named Yellow Long Neck and circulated. Is it Furtado possibly, or another fig entirely? No idea. I have no firsthand experience with it.
Anyway, my Long Yellow is from Encanto and my Yellow Long Neck is the tissue culture from Wellspring Gardens. These seem the same to me.
Has anyone else grown both LY from Encanto and YLN from Wellspring Gardens? If so, I would be interested to hear your experience growing and ripening these.
Last edited by mountainfigs; 12-28-2018, 09:10 PM. Reason: added everything after the first paragraphTony WV 6b
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NYCfigs Yellow Long Neck is a California fig, many people including Harvey sourced it from Encanto. I am surprised people confuse it with Long Yellow, which is one of the most unique figs around. Aside from its huge fruit, I am informed that its leaves more closely resemble a Ficus Palmata. Not even clear if it qualifies as a Ficus Carica. Danny, please chime in.Rafael
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Is this leaf Yellow long neck or Long Yellow?
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How did I missed it 🤔 sorry guys.
Evdurtschi, this leaf pic is of off my YLN, cuttings source was from Rickyv101 one cutting was grafted on to unknown (more likely Hardy Chicago type), second cutting was gradted on to Italian Honey.
On both trees grfts preferred to same, growth was very vigorous, it fruited same season , fig production was except, fig at every node, but figs didn't have time to ripen (yes it would have been good idea to thin the figs 🤨) but I wanted to know what that graft can do without interfering.
YLN tree that the leaf pic above was taken, was in it's second season.
Sorry about my grammar, to busy to learn proper English 😫
MASS FIGS,
My YLN is also very healthy no slightest FMV sign.
YLN was grafted early in season in basemant it preformed very well, rest of its preference is above.
This past season 2020 was up poted from 3 gallon pot to 6 gallon and placed on south side of garage 3 feet a way from wall, it send it's roots on ground in the soil that was rich in nutrients (2 inches of cow manure) YLN grew way to much with 4 inch long nodes, figs production was again at every node plus YLN rouced second main crop out of wich only first fig ripened, (not complaining 🙂).
IME YLN considering fruiting preformed beter in tight shoe🙂
The tree does look like Christmas tree decorated with green, yellow, then captivating golden bulbs !
Best of luck all the way !
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Different varieties as far as I'm concerned. They are traced back to 2 different sources in CA. The sources have traded notes on the varieties and never came to a conclusion. So acquiring a solid copy of both is a must. I've had both and lost them. I've recovered both and they have a permanent places in our collection. Both are vigorous, Long Yellow a little less so. Fruits are similar. IMO Long Yellow is a Palmata (hybrid?). I've been in the presence of a mature Long Yellow and it is simply beautiful. Thick, hairy, single and tri-lobed leaves. Thick trunk and shoots (to support that extra-large delicious fruit). It looks more like jungle tree than anything else. Thrives and ripens a crop in a pot in USDA Zone 5a. YLN is a nice variety and easily the most vigorous in our collection. All carica. If I had to choose one over the other YLN would be sitting at the curb.Comment
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These are photos of Vito’s Long Yellow from the 2016 SI fig festivalYou may only view thumbnails in this gallery. This gallery has 1 photos.Rafael
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You may only view thumbnails in this gallery. This gallery has 1 photos.Rafael
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Now I am even more confused. That looks like UC Golden Riverside! lol
Disclaimer - Nobody take my word as fact!! I have only been growing figs for a few months and most definitely am not qualified to make a judgment call of any type related to this question. :-)Eric - Lebanon, TN Zone 7aComment
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Eric,
You're confused? imagine my confusion!
Here's my plan. I plan to continue to grow what I believe is Yellow Long Neck. It was sold to me as such as a tissue cultured little start from Wellspring Nursery. I have no reason to question Wellspring's truthfulness. Yellow Long Neck is showing extreme hope with its many outstanding attributes. If it rises to the top of the heap, all the better. I will try to leave unraveling the identity of the rest of the "look-alikes," and "name-alikes," to wiser minds than mine.
ThorntornW. PA., Pittsburgh, zone 6b USDA, but more 5b, realistically. All pot grown fig trees, no in-grounds.Comment
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Here's my young yellow long neckComment
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My YLN fruit and leaf looks identical to yours. Hooray! How did your Yellow Long Neck tree come to you, as a cutting, started plant from cutting or a tissue cultured start? Do you have an evaluation on its growth habit, and a critique on its fruit? Thanks for posting.
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I got it as a cutting on the old F4F forum. First time fruiting,1.5 yrs old in a 5gal Sip about 6ft tall. I like large juicy figs and this video did it for me https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LqzEHKZsRak
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Petecharn, your Yellow long neck looks fully ripe, and uzing honey.
This one has a atractiv long neck.
Looks like it is very sweet, maybe I am wrong but to me the color of this fig indenticates that it is full of flavor. I love the look of this one.
Thanks for sharing.Comment
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Which is the one Wills sells as Long Yellow Neck? It produced fruit that looked exactly like PetechanrComment
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Here are some archived links that sort through the naming uncertainties of Long Yellow, Yellow Long Neck, and Long Neck Yellow (which was simply an inverted misnaming of Yellow Long Neck):
Tony WV 6b
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mountainfigs All great links. Everything anyone needs to know is right there! Thank you for posting.
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Originally posted by moonlight View PostIs this leaf Yellow long neck or Long Yellow?
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I have a tissue culture YLN too. At least I'm pretty sure it is YLN. I just picked and ate its very first ripe fruit tonight. It ripened in daily temps under 60 f. It had a nice refreshing taste. Really tasted like I expected it to.
My leafs look similar to the YLN leafs others posted, but the fruit doesn't exactly look the same. Mine neither has a long neck nor a long stem and the outside obviously has lots of color.You may only view thumbnails in this gallery. This gallery has 6 photos.Last edited by Figwasp; 10-21-2020, 08:30 PM.Seattle (zone 8b).Comment
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Guys and gals, imo Roberts Rainbow and yellow long neck they are the same. They both turn this same color with cooler weather. I just feel it needs to end. They are the same. In fact I would bet Roberts tree is from the original mother tree. They look and behave the same way. So, can anyone explain why they would be different?Comment
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Even Ira Condit, one of the most accomplished and experienced fig experts of the 20th century, made errors in calling figs synonyms -- i.e., they were later shown to be genetically distinct. The one that comes to mind is Green Ischia and Verte, which he thought was the same and which are not, based on DNA. I think it would require the full genome to say with 100% certainty that YLN and GR are the same.
But they are. According to me! ;-)
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I've watched all the videos and my main thing was that everyone's yln looked yellow while Ben's were always colorful. I knew it could potentially be the climate. I'm geographically very close to Ben. Now that I've ripened a YLN with the same color and taste characters that he describes for his golden riverside, I'm now pretty convinced they are the same and that any differences people see have to do with climate and tree maturity. I bought a golden rainbow from Ben this year though and I don't regret it. I might still get a long yellow too. I really like these figs.Seattle (zone 8b).Comment
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Yes! The Yellow Long Neck as named by Edgar Valdivia and sourced from George Emerich was labeled Long Yellow by George. George also referred to this fig as ‘Big Yellow’.Originally posted by Thorntorn View Post
I do not know where Agristarts sourced their Yellow Long Neck.So. California, Zone 10aComment
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"The Yellow Long Neck as named by Edgar Valdivia and sourced from George Emerich was labeled Long Yellow by George. George also referred to this fig as ‘Big Yellow’."
Finodejete I've been on top of the YLN vs. LY debate for many years and this is a piece of information I've not heard before. Did you know either of these men personally?
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https://youtu.be/5M0ekDAhwP0 Lou monti’s video gives his input give it a watch.Zone 5 Barrie, onComment
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Lou's video is spot-on and his LY is probably one of the better examples of LY I've seen since the original. Yellow Long Neck vs. Long Yellow... still two completely different figs.Comment
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NYCfigs I met Edgar at a CRFG meeting back in the spring of 2002 or 2003 (This is where he told me about the YLN and where to get one) and have been to his house in Simi Valley, Ca.
I visited George during the same time period at his house in Fallbrook, Ca. We first talked about Cherimoyas and the ‘Nata’ variety which he named after his wife Natalie.
George knew I was there for the tree Edgar was talking about and i bought a 1 gallon which was labeled Long Yellow. I asked him if this is the same tree Edgar has and he said yes.
I still have the label today attached to my tree.So. California, Zone 10aComment
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Check out what Lou Monti have to say about this !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiGUcjID6Wg&t=9sComment
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