About 2 months ago, a member told me it is Gris. Last year I was given
cuttings of Brun from a collecter in Toronto. I have Gris. Hopefully they
are not the same as I do no not need duplicates.
I believe that Herman2 has compared them all. I believe the results were that they tasted similar, but CdD Blanc performed much better in his in-ground tests. They were more cold hardy.
Jim
Brun=Gris=Roja/Rossa. Seems France is Grice and Pons has as Rojas/Rossa. Bruno seems maybe a Canadian take on name. Only seen there. Skin has a brown/red look.
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I am basing my comment on the fact that nowhere in French sources have I seen a reference to "Brun" so yes, I am assuming that since Brun and Noir both mean dark that they are the same. As for NYPD's comment, I am not denying what he states but last year Pons sold me a cutting of CdD Gris, he may have another name for it, on his website he does not offer it, so I am not sure, I just assumed he had it and that is what I received, I killed it anyway so I cannot compare it to anything.
Rafael,
Sorry for your loss, this happens to everybody.
As the Brun's seller says, he got it originally from Europe but does not know why it came with that name.
I hadn't heard before that Coll de Dama Roja is the same. Pons' book doesn't list synonyms for that variety. But for Gris/Brun, see http://figblog.binhoster.com/col-de-dame/
Col de Dame Brun ou Gris – épiderme gris brun, avec un peu de vert bleuté.
COL DE DAME
Origin: probably Spain - Col de Signora
Area of culture: Roussillon, Catalonia Spanish and Ariège
Type: Uniform
Maturity: late (late September in the Southeast France)
Epidermis: thick, dark purple, pruinose (black), pale yellowish-white (white), gray-brown (Grise=gray, - Brun=brown-marrón)
There are 3 distinct varieties: Col de Dame Blanc (white), Col de Dame Noir (black ), and Col de Dame Grise (gray)
Shape: rather large, pyriform, elongated and thick neck with strong narrowing
Peduncle: very short
Pulp: dark red
Flavor: excellent, white being less sweet
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