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  • DIY Grow Shelf

    Somehow I have outgrown my indoor growing space (which is basically the entire unfinished part of my basement). Obviously I have a lot of cuttings rooting. Many new varieties, extras, and some from my own stock. Extras and ones from my trees I will sell and trade in the spring.

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    Needing some more space I decided to design my own grow shelf to expand vertically. The unit I built is 48" wide, 28" deep (to fit in the specific space I had) and as tall as my ceiling (84"). I used 3 shelves, though could probably have done 4 shorter ones. This holds 200 4X9 tree pots.


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    I decided use LED strip lights attached to the underside of the upper shelf for light. Initially I thought that two of these SMD 2835 strips would be enough for each shelf, but I ended up using 8 sets (4 sets of 2) on a single shelf, the top shelf.



    The lower two shelves use this slightly more economical SMD 5050 double light strips.



    I used two sets per shelf for the lower two shelves.

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    The lower shelves could be brighter, and I am waiting for a light meter recommended in another thread to compare the light levels to my other lights that I know work well. I can add more sets later if I need to.

    The lights come in 5M rolls. In order to make the runs the length of the shelves I cut and soldered the strips. The strips are designed to be cut and soldered.

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    Here are some of the lights in action:

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    To power the LEDs I used one 150W power supply I had from another project and bought one 600W one. The top shelf is attached to the 150W supply and the 600W powers the bottom two. One important thing to remember while wiring the LEDs is that you can't put more than about 5M of lights in series without them getting dim due to voltage drop. So each 5M section has its own wire that runs back to a common place, where it is attached in together (parallel circuit) and then attached to the power supply. I originally thought I would use fewer LEDs, so the next one I do I will size for one power supply to keep things neater. I'll also attach the power supply higher to make sure no water ends up in it. (Note that I still need to clean up some cords).

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    The 600W supply is this one:

    Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DC 12V 3A to 60A Amp 110V 220V Power Supply LED Strip Light 12 V Volt 110 220 AC at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!


    One problem with the LED strip lights is that they don't stick for any length of time to the bottom of the shelves, even though they have adhesive backs. The ONLY thing that I found that works is Gorilla Duct Tape from Lowes (other duct tapes don't work). You can see I put small strips over the LEDs in three places per strand.

    As shown in the pictures I surrounded the unit with reflective Mylar. Since my basement is full of figs I built this in place and didn't have access to the back once it was built, so I taped the Mylar to the inside. It could also have been put on the outside. The Mylar helps reflect light back and also keeps light out of my basement. I don't need it too tight, but I plan to build more of these next year and hopefully keep my basement windows from glowing purple in the evening and morning. I am pretty sure my neighbors wonder what the heck I am doing

    The Mylar I used was:

    Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for SUPER THICK 6.7 MIL MYLAR ON BLACK POLY REFLECTIVE HYDRO GROW ROOM LINER FILM at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!


    The thick Mylar is nice, but a thinner type would have been OK, especially for the sides and back. The reflective surface of the Mylar makes the shelves much brighter and I would highly recommend it.

    One important feature of this shelf for me was making the shelves water proof. The 2X6s hold the pots in place, but are also caulked around the bottom to hold standing water. This keeps the water from running everywhere when I water, and also lets some water absorb into the bottom of the pots. Having a few hundred cuttings I water with a wand on a hose (once the cuttings have hardened off and can be soaked), otherwise it takes forever. On the tables watering results in a mess.

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    Finally, to make sure the plants don't get too hot I installed one 120mm fan per shelf attached to a simple controller which has a temperature sensor that I tape under the fan. The fan is set to turn on at 28 degrees C. In practice only the top shelf sometimes turns on. The bottom and middle shelves stay around 24 C and 26 C respectively. It seems like good insurance though.

    The fans are:


    The controllers are:
    Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Sensor Switch EM-THERM-0004-KIT Digital Thermostat Temperature Control Module at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!


    Unfortunately it seems like the controllers reset when they loose power, so I hooked them up to an old laptop power supply that stays on all day. The power supplies for the lights are attached to a digital time. I use this type for all my lights and love them.


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    Here is the unit closed up. I tape Mylar above each shelf and use velcro on the bottom to hold it down. I also added an extra piece of velcro to keep the rolls up when I want them open.

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    Overall I am very happy with the unit. Watering is easier and the figs are really enjoying the warmer temperatures and seem to like the light levels. The leaves have turned a deep healthy green color over the last week, unlike the ones under my brighter LED lights that seem to be paler and suffer from the intense light. The project wasn't cheap, but it was cheaper than tables and my T5/LED fixtures I use for them.
    Fig plants available at:
    https://tinkerbugfigs.com/product-category/figplants/
    Zone 7A - Moorestown NJ

  • #2
    Wow. You need an intervention.
    There are plenty more I want but the Colonel took my last spot.

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    • #3
      That is one awesome set-up!

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      • #4
        Impressive!
        Southwest WV, zone 6B

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        • #5
          spiff2, I was just thinking the same thing. We need to start a support group. We can call it Figahaulics Anonymous. You know, a place to go and say, "Hi, my name's Michael, and I grow figs." Then everyone can nod their heads, knowing that their habit is even worse.
          Zone 7B/8A Wake Forest, NC. Wish list - 1. To stop murdering fig cuttings. 2. To find the biggest, juiciest, cold hardiest, most delicious common fig in the world! (and not murder it)

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          • spiff2
            spiff2 commented
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            And maybe we can all bring a fig tree so after the meeting we can have a Chinese auction.

          • cepeders
            cepeders commented
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            Something I need

        • #6
          What a monumental feat! I can't imagine myself achieving this rate of successful rooted cuttings

          You are a natural
          Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
          Zone: Hell++ (Desert Climate)
          Wish List: Cooler Summers

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          • #7
            Everyone thought I had a lot of cuttings!!! You put me to shame!! Nice work man!
            Eric - Lebanon, TN Zone 7a

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            • #8
              That's quite a set-up! Great job on your grow shelf!
              Chris - Zone 6b

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              • UKE4U
                UKE4U commented
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                Chris, Didn't see your post until after I posted. We both appear to think the same. He sure has got his growing room well put together.

              • Cguitar
                Cguitar commented
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                Ed it sure is a great build!👍

            • #9
              cepeders , 👍Very nice shelf set up and growing area. That's a heck of a lot of tree pots. Thanks for sharing your lay out with us. Also, appreciate the links for the supplies/materials that you used to build the shelf unit. Takes the guess work out of trying to built a similar unit for anyone that wants that type of room saver. Good job! 👍👍👍👍
              Ed B. West Coast of Michigan L.P. 6a/6b

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              • Rigo007
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                Hes an engineer so expect nothing but the best from this gentleman. Did you ever see the chicken Coop this man built? Oh my gosh Ed, it's a freaking chicken mansion!

            • #10
              Yes!!! I love it, I’m currently building a similar although smaller unit for my basement. This post was so timely for me, I’m definitely going to gleen some ideas from what you’ve done. Thanks for posting this.
              Wish list. White Baca, Kafe Te Jiate, Crozes, Angelito, TD Yellow Crinkle, Brown Sugar Crunch

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              • #11
                Glad it was helpful. I love getting good ideas from all your posts, so happy I can help some people
                Fig plants available at:
                https://tinkerbugfigs.com/product-category/figplants/
                Zone 7A - Moorestown NJ

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                • #12
                  What a great set-up. I'm so impressed with the care and effort you put into the project and your baby plants look so healthy!
                  SE MI, zone 6a Current wish list: Fewer gnats, more roots this winter.

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                  • #13
                    Everything looks great and well thought out. The cuttings sure look happy.

                    My first thought was "My wife would kill me".
                    Tony, Toronto Canada USDA 4B now 5B apparently!!
                    Wishlist: Rigato Del Salento PB,
                    San Biago.

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                    • cepeders
                      cepeders commented
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                      As long as I stay in the basement I keep out of trouble

                  • #14
                    Wow—very impressive. I like the led strip lights you are using. I’d be interested to see how much light the figs are getting once you can measure with your light meter. Your temperature switch/fan description was helpful too. I had looked at some thermostatic switches but they were much more expensive so I passed on them.
                    FigLife: www.figlife.com
                    www.youtube.com/figlifedotcom
                    Sacramento, CA - zone 9b

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                    • cepeders
                      cepeders commented
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                      I wish these switches didn’t reset on power failure, but otherwise they are great. I’ll post on the light levels as soon as I get the meter. I am curios too

                  • #15
                    Your project is a clever way to create vertical growing spaces. Well done!
                    Christine (Waddell, AZ Zone 9b) Wishlist: All my fig wishes have been fulfilled by OurFigs members. Thank you!

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                    • cepeders
                      cepeders commented
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                      Thanks!

                  • #16
                    I forgot to ask, do you have any problems with fungus gnats?
                    Tony, Toronto Canada USDA 4B now 5B apparently!!
                    Wishlist: Rigato Del Salento PB,
                    San Biago.

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                    • #17
                      The mods here need to sticky this post or add it to the "Index of Frequently Referenced Topics" so that others can go back and learn to set up their system. Very informative, thank you!
                      San Jose CA, Zone 9b
                      Wish list: CC, CLBC, MIB, Burgan UNK, Cali Candy, Brandon St Unk, Sangue Dolce, Calderona, Martinenca Rimada, Campaniere, Thermalito

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                      • #18
                        It pays to be an engineer. I would have made a flimsy and uneven contraption lol. Great job Christian.

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                        • #19
                          Awesome job. Going to screenshot this for my wife. It should get her off my case unless she sees the straw man fallacy.
                          N. GA 7B
                          Wish list: Pay it forward and share the love of figs! I want for nothing.

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                          • #20
                            Thanks for sharing the photos and info, looks great...
                            Looking forward to the Lux info, I'm also curious about the light levels / outputs from those LED strip light.
                            Pete R - Hudson Valley, NY - zone 5b

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                            • AscPete
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                              You could also calculate / extrapolate based on UL Listed smd 2835 and smd 5050 strips...

                              2835 are ~ 150 Lumens / watt
                              5050 are ~ 50 Lumens / watt

                              2835 @ 18 Watts ~ 2700 Lumens
                              5050 @ 144 Watts ~ 7200 Lumens

                              2835 ~ 4 - 800 Lumens 60 watt equivalent A19 LEDs
                              5050 ~ 9 - 800 Lumens 60 watt equivalent A19 LEDs

                            • cepeders
                              cepeders commented
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                              That is what is odd, the Lumens calc should mean that the two sets of 5050 (double rows) lights that I installed in the lower shelves would be brighter (2X7200 lumens = 14,400 lumens per shelf for the 5050s and 4X2700 = 10,800 lumens per shelf for the 2835s), but it very much looks like the 2835s are brighter. It didn't seem to matter if I ran only one set of the 5050s at a time (so not a power supply problem) and each set of the 5050s is wired in parallel, so still not sure why they are not as bright as the 2835s (or maybe they are and my eyes are not a good judge, should know soon).

                              In looking at all the numbers I missed how efficient the 2835s are, so I may use those in the future.

                            • AscPete
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                              The "Brightness" could be a function of CCT value, e.g. the difference between 5000K and 6000K.
                              The calculated watts would have to be compared to the measured watts to estimate the actual output.

                              BTW these UL and DLC listed T8 LED Bulbs direct wired (Bypass), installed with simple pipe straps / clamps could also work in your application;
                              The VersaT8 is our premier LED tube and works with most T8 electronic ballasts. The advantage to this tube is its versatility. Not only can this tube work with a ballast, it can also work without a ballast, directly wired into AC100-277V. Great Selection of LED Tubes on Sale.


                              2835 ~ 1 - 2,680 Lumens @ 18 watts T8 LED
                              5050 ~ 3 - 8,000 Lumens @ 54 watts T8 LED
                              Last edited by AscPete; 02-04-2019, 08:13 AM.

                          • #21
                            I'm in awe!! The vertical idea is great. My question is will you be housing all of these as they mature? Or do they need homes?
                            Kim...South FL Zone 10a https://www.ourfigs.com/core/images/smilies/cool.png

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                            • cepeders
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                              Way too many to keep, even for me . I’ll be selling some of the extras in April when I can ship.

                          • #22
                            As an experiment, I’d like to lock you andEvdurtschi in Eric’s fog-bunker for a month with all your combined cuttings to see what you two come up with.....

                            Also - hot glue gun on those LED strips. Fast, easy, cheap and strong
                            Guildwood Village - Toronto, Canada - Zone 6

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                            • cepeders
                              cepeders commented
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                              Hot glue is a great idea, I will do that on the next one. Thanks!

                            • TorontoJoe
                              TorontoJoe commented
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                              I love the stuff.... it’s not hot enough to melt your project but hardens so quick you can work really fast. I got the idea after noticing that the pre-fab kitchen cabinets at Lowe’s are not fastened with wood glue, but rather hot glue. Obviously for speed but the stuff is also strong enough to hold tight. Now I use the stuff for anything where I don’t have time to wait for drying of conventional glue

                            • Rigo007
                              Rigo007 commented
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                              🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good one Joe. I can only imagine.

                          • #23
                            Good luck my friend. Looks good and you have much to look after there. The next part is harder.

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                            • cepeders
                              cepeders commented
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                              Thanks! Some good looking god father cuttings from you in there somewhere.

                              My next project is a fruit cage so I can grow out the ones I plan to keep without feeding the squirrels. Then some will go in an orchard where I have some more space.

                          • #24
                            I see a bunch of aeroponic cloners in the first pic... very well done on the whole setup, I’m totally envious right now, especially because i used to have a bunch of LED’s and cloners... still have the ebb n grow setups expanded to accommodate over 100 plants and a bunch of other goodies.
                            Can’t wait to see how you are going to transition them when they get a little bigger, love all the pictures.
                            Tucson AZ zone 9a

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                            • cepeders
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                              Only one of those is actually a cloner. The rest are just bins. I had mixed success with the cloner so far. I used it to save a couple almost dead high value cuttings, but killed many cuttings too. I plan to give it another try when I have some green material since people say it works well for that.

                          • #25
                            I finally got my lux meter on the second try. I read in other posts that the ideal light level is 20,000 lux at the canopy. My setups definetly don't achieve this. Outside this shelf I mostly use T8 fluorescent fixtures with LED cool white bulbs. These seem to product about 9,000 lux at the canopy. The LED setups that are the subject of this post produce 5,000 lux (2835s) and 4,000 lux (5050s) as measured at the canopy.

                            I am still seeing healthy growth from all the setups, but on my next version of the shelf I will take AscPete 's advice and try T8 bulbs directly wired. This summer I'll also add some more 2835 led strips to my existing shelves to bring up the lux.

                            For now I'll hold out for spring and hope everything keeps growing and looking healthy.
                            Fig plants available at:
                            https://tinkerbugfigs.com/product-category/figplants/
                            Zone 7A - Moorestown NJ

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                            • AscPete
                              AscPete commented
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                              Thanks for the update.

                              The recommendations for propagation are 200 - 400 PPFD (or umol/m2/s), that's equivalent to 13,300 - 26,700 Lux @ 4000K LED.

                              That's a 0.015 factor / constant... 1000 Lux (or Lumens) = 15 umol/m2/s - PPFD (or umol/s -PPF) for 3000K to 5000K Phosphor Converted LEDs;
                              Lux (x) 0.015 = PPFD (umol/m2/s)
                              Lumens (x) 0.015 = PPF (umol/s)
                              PPFD (/) 0.015 = Lux (Lumens/m2)
                              PPF (/) 0.015 = Lumens

                              Its a simple conversion, there are also published conversion factors for most white light sources (fluorescent, CMH/LEC, HPS, etc), but it does not work with discrete / colored LEDs.

                              9000 Lux ~ 135 PPFD
                              5000 Lux ~ 75 PPFD
                              4000 Lux ~ 60 PPFD
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