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    My first time with cuttings, this is a BI39. How long do roots have to be to plant? As u can see there are buds growing on top already, and just little sprouts of roots. Put this in water on 12/7. Thanks guys
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    Zone 7a Galloway, NJ

  • #2
    Those are root initials, roots can still take days to weeks to form. Most people move the cuttings to pots with 1/2" or so long roots.
    Scott - Colorado Springs, CO - Zone 4/5 (Depending on the year) - Elevation 6266ft

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    • #3
      Ok thanks I just wasn't sure since it was budding so much
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      • #4
        It happens sometimes, several of mine did it last year. If your ready, you can pot them now since they are growing, I did it with no problems.
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        • #5
          Yeah....just DON'T over water.
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          • #6
            If I were you I'd put her in cup with well rung smag moss. I have been told water root is weaker than other way to root. But but what I hear! Congratulation on a job well done Amico. It warm my heart to see post with tis cutting doing well!
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            • #7
              They could be root initials or just lenticles which are not roots and will never be roots. To me they look like lenticles but that is just an opinion. They tend to form in very moist environments which means sometimes too wet. I have never tried rooting in water though. If it was me I would cease the water and put it in coir now or long fiber sphagnum moss. Make sure you wring out every drop of water you can out of either one. Then when roots form in another 1-3 weeks and hit 1/2 long plant it but remember water is the enemy. Because it is sprouting I would root it in a cup with a cup on top somewhere where it gets some light but no direct sun. That is just me though.
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              • #8
                The photos are a little blurry but I would agree with lenticels.

                Rooting in water can take a loooong time. Both of the attached pictures are from cuttings that have been in water for six months or more. I'm pretty sure they were from 05/20/15 which would be a little over seven months. The two with the little roots just started growing roots within the last two weeks. The larger ones a couple months ago. Both had the little white dots in the first week.

                As you can see, leafing out in water doesn't seem to be an issue though.

                I'd switch to the spaghnum or direct pot method as mentioned if they are important to you and you don't want to wait another 3-6 months.

                Good luck.
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                • #9
                  Sounds good thanks guys I have other cutting in coir and they are starting to show roots I'll post a few pics
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                • #10
                  Taverna's chai, has the best roots out of all the cuttings. Started 12/7
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                  • #11
                    Wow belle job! That is ready for cup Amico!
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                    • #12
                      Planted the cuttings that had 1/2 inch or more of roots it 1/3 perlite 1/3 fahfar, 1/3 wood chips. Have them in large storage bin so I don't shock them comming from coir. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks
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                      • #13
                        You have drain hole in cups? Maybe 3-5 on bottom and 3 vertical 4time around cup. Heat mat under them? Don't over water...
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                        • #14
                          Have holes on sides and bottom. No heat mat the room is around 66-70 degrees.
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                          • #15
                            I have them under my grow lamps, but out on the side not under the light directly.
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                            • #16
                              The paleness of the new growth suggests to me that they need more light than what they're getting. Just a thought.
                              Sarah
                              Bay Area, CA (zone: 9B)

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                              • #17
                                That new growth was in the coir I had them completely covered, I just took them out yesterday.
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                                • Sarahkt
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                                  That explains it. Looks good to me otherwise! Keep 'em warm and humidified while they root with daily airing and mold checks and it will go well.

                              • #18
                                Awesome thank u
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                                • #19
                                  I agree that you might want more light for those cuttings. They look like they are doing fine otherwise.
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                                  • #20
                                    >> Planted the cuttings that had 1/2 inch or more of roots it 1/3 perlite 1/3 fahfar, 1/3 wood chips.
                                    Do you literally mean wood chips...or do you maybe mean pine bark?
                                    Wood chips are not the best to use for potting medium, since they will consume nitrogen as they decompose and directly compete with the cuttings/trees (that will need that same nitrogen to support their growth.)
                                    I think just going 50/50 perlite/fahfar would be better than including the wood chips.
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                                    Jim -- Central NJ, Zone 6b

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                                    • #21
                                      Bark I dunno why I said wood chips
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