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  • New leaves from cutting suddenly withered

    From last week, a few of my cuttings got problem. new leaves became withered, I am sure that they are not over watered or too moistures, no fertilizer etc. Actually they were in good shape before, I place them in a family room with lots of day light and LED ceiling lights per day. Can any member tells me why this happened and how to avoid or improve to keep them alive. Thanks......

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    You don't mention the root situation. Did these have good roots too? Were these cuttings with leaves only, and not roots? Sometimes I have cuttings that leaf first, then lose one or two if the roots lag too long behind. It's usually okay unless they preferentially leaf out with no roots. When a cutting does that for me, I try to keep in the humidity bin with warmth and humidity, and less light (or with a humidity cup over it in a less light intensive area of heating mat) to promote more roots.

    Disclaimer is this is only my second year rooting figs, so just a guess.

    Could also be a sudden change in temp or humidity... for example, if you suddenly changed them from a rooting bin where they had leaves used to high humidity.
    Last edited by Sarahkt; 01-07-2016, 02:00 AM.
    Sarah
    Bay Area, CA (zone: 9B)

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    • pacifica
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      They do have roots (2 cuttings placed in 16 oz plastic cup and 1 cutting potted in 1 gal pot) When I saw the leaves became withered, I used sprayer to spray water to the leaves only to keep them moisture or more humidity, but so far it does not help at all. The one potted in 1 gal pot is about 15" high and supposed to be very healthy before, but now is not doing good but withered. Is it because I move them around ? Let's say sometime moved them to supper floor to get more daylight or direct sun, sometime moved them to family room for more ceiling light etc.

    • Sarahkt
      Sarahkt commented
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      We might be more helpful if you can take a picture of the ones in the clear cups at least, to show us. Can show a lot of things, such as root abundance and health, wetness and type of soil, etc.

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    "I place them in a family room with lots of day light and LED ceiling lights per day." Where were they before is? changes need to be done very slowly especially light and humidity.
    Scott - Colorado Springs, CO - Zone 4/5 (Depending on the year) - Elevation 6266ft

    “Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple.” – Bill Mollison

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    • pacifica
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      I started to place them in the upper floor for rooting before till they have roots and leaves, then mostly I keep them in upper floor (other room) in the morning for more day light till 4 pm then I move them to family room for more ceiling lights after 4:00 pm till the next morning. Is it the reason why the leaves turn out withered ? Any suggestion how to save them ?

  • #4
    Photos of the leaves, soil and roots would help. How does the soil smell? How heavy is the pot compared to usual? What type of soil? Is the plant now in direct sun for a part of the day?
    Bob C.
    Kansas City, MO Z6

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    • pacifica
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      I have been using 50%perlite and 50% potting mix. Please see photos attached for reference. I place 1 gal pot cutting face to the sun through the sliding door in sunny day in the moning, for less than an hour due to winter reason in Vancouver, B. C (sunny morning only once in a while) I seldom place the plastic cup cuttings face to the sun as they are still very young with not much roots. Hope this will help you to give your recommendation to me to save them alive. Thanks.....

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      I think the problem is that you might be moving them around too much. The change in humidity is what I think is causing your problem. I think you should first make sure that they are not over watered. Then put them inside a clear plastic bag with support inside the bag to protect the branch and stems from touching the plastic and poke a few holes in the bag for air circulation. Seal the bag around the pot and keep it in one place so that it will be climatized. Under lights if possible for around 12 hrs/day. They should perk up within a couple of weeks. After they have come back, add another hole in the bag each week. This way they will eventually have the same humidity as the rest of the room you have them in. This is what I have done over the past few years and I have not lost any cuttings. I'm not an expert, just sharing my ideas based on my experience.

      Good luck!

      Luzzu

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      • pacifica
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        Thank you very much Luzzu. I will proceed according to your recommendation first thing to-morrow.

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      I agree with you, Iuzzu

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      • #8
        I'm not sure how quickly you moved the plants in to the sun but that has to be done very slowly. I don't see any damage to the leaves so unless the leaves discolor soon that doesn't seem to be the problem. It could be from changing humidity IF you took them from an area of high humidity to low humidity.

        I don't know what kind of potting mix you used with the perlite but if it's peat based it looks too wet. Take a generous pinch of just the dark stuff and squeeze it. If you get a drop of water it's too wet.

        You were right in thinking the plant needs more light. You can use 100W equivalent CFLs or any light source you have.
        Bob C.
        Kansas City, MO Z6

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        • Sarahkt
          Sarahkt commented
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          I agree, could be the lighting but the mix looks too wet if it's a peat mix.

          If it was usually that wet and not after a sudden watering spree, I would be inclined to think it was more due to a sudden humidity/temp change. I wouldn't water it any more for while, and keep it in a warm, well-lit place. Maybe a clear bag over the top to keep the humidity up, and later gradually ease it off by making holes in the bag.

        • pacifica
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          I checked but the potting mix is not wet at all. I have placed them in a clear bag for more humiidity and light hopefully, I can keep them alive in a few weeks.
          Thanks to all for the great help.
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