Anyone tried ProMix HP-CC (Peat and Coco Coir)?

[fitzski]

I saw this at the local hydroponics store and I was thinking of giving it a try.

Here's the description from the site:

PRO-MIX HP-CC MYCORRHIZAE^™ is a lightweight, high-porosity peat-based growing medium that contains chunk coir. It ensures optimum growth, especially when high air capacity and extra drainage are required. It is ideal for water-sensitive crops, rooting cuttings and/or low-light growing conditions that contains a beneficial mycorrhizal inoculum (Glomus intraradices). These microscopic fungi attach to and colonize the root systems working in symbiosis with plants. It benefits the plant by increasing water and nutrients acquisition (especially Phosphorus, Copper and Zinc). This symbiotic relationship between fungi and plant, results in an overall improved plant growth PRO-MIX HP-CC MYCORRHIZAE^™ is suitable for a wide variety of horticultural plants.

http://www.nehydro.com/pro-mix-hp-cc-coco-3-8cf-bale-in-store-only/

Just wondering if anyone has used it yet?

[Dave]

[fitzski]

thanks, Dave. So it provides better drainage than the HP.

[newnandawg]

I would think it would be something to consider for the very young cuttings and maybe up to one gal
containers. Personally, I would not be inclined to use it in my growing area for other containers
and especially during the hot summer months. I would probably have to stand over them 24/7
with a watering hose. LOL

[fitzski]

i might pick up a bag and try it with my newly rooted cuttings and see if it makes any difference.

[LouNeo]

I talked to a Pro-Mix rep this morning via Facebook actually. This was their response for their best product for rooting fig cuttings, for what its worth...
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PRO-MIX HP MYCORRHIZAE is the best product for rooting cuttings, including figs. Ideally you would water it similar to a house plant. Stick the cuttings in the growing medium and water it until it is completely wet. Do not compact or push the growing medium in the pot.

Let the water settle the growing medium around the cuttings. Compacting the growing medium collapses air spaces which provide air for emerging plant roots. Then allow it to start drying. You want to keep it moist, but not wet as this could rot the cuttings.

Once roots start to form, allow the growing medium to dry out between waterings to encourage deeper rooting and development of a strong root system. The surface of the growing medium should turn a light brown to tan color between waterings. This is a good indication that the growing medium has dried out sufficiently.

Also, fungus gnats and shore flies need a wet growing medium to complete their life cycle, so very moist to wet growing medium are attractive places for them to lay their eggs. By allowing the growing medium to dry out, they are much less likely to become a problem.

You can also find more info on our YouTube channel : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2J...O-LeqDTJC0bWDA

Hope it answers your question. If you have more, don't hesitate!

Your PRO-MIX team
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[fitzski]

Thanks for posting that, Lou. I've been using Pro-Mix HP for the past year or so and it works pretty well.

[LouNeo]

You are definitely welcome, I messaged them last night asking what they recommended and woke up to the response this morning. They seemed to be very responsive and helpful, ive had a bag of HP in my cart for a week now, going to pull the trigger on it finally.

[Harborseal]

I sent in a similar question on their website. They have 2 different descriptions of HPcc (underlining mine :- )

Benefits

• Greater frequency of dry-down periods (compared to general purpose peat-based mixes)
• Grower can more easily leach fertilizer salts during crop cycle
• Difficult to over-water
• Well suited for undesirable, year-round weather conditions

and Advice from our specialist

PRO-MIX^® HPCC MYCORRHIZAE™ ... This growing medium has a high water holding capacity, and care should be taken not to overwater early in the crop cycle.

LouNeo, would you send the link to the HP @ GHMS? A search on Promix and pro mix shows only BX and FPX for me.

[Harborseal]

BTW, the PRO-MIX HP BIOFUNGICIDE MYCORRHIZAE is what I'd get. It has Bacillus subtilis and Bacillus Pumilus (the Biostimulant only has B subtilis) and Glomus intraradices which has been shown to benefit fig plants. It's only a few dollars extra. Many of you will qualify to buy from local wholesalers which should bring the price down to the high 30s per 3.8 cu' bale. Some local nurseries can get it for you, also.

[Q*]

I bought a 3.8 cubic foot bag last year. Its regular HP mixed with chunks of coconut coir. It would be the same if you mixed regular HP with bark chips. I bought it thinking that too much water is bad for fig roots....water runs right through it. It was horrible for potted plants in my extreme heat. I had to water my plants 2-3 times a day. After about 3 weeks of having to water like crazy....i took it all out and mixed it with cheap soil and up potted my larger plants into 25 gal. pots with it. Its a great growing medium for medicinal hydroponic plants but not for figs in Arizona. It might do better in places where its wet all the time.

[Harborseal]

Quy, there are 2 places in Tucson that can get it. I'm sure they'd take your cc over the phone and order you what you want.


Green Things

3235 EAST ALLEN
TUCSON (AZ) United States
85719

Phone: (520) 299-9471

[Harborseal]

And

Civanos Farms

12190 S OLD NOGALES HWY
TUCSON (AZ) United States
85756

Phone: (520) 722-7770

It's a 2+ hr drive, and only you can say if it's worth it or not. I fill my van if I make the drive

Also, bark chips will hold water and slowly release it so pine bark chips would be good for you. Coconut shell chips don't absorb water at all so they're good for rainy areas.

[Q*]

Thanks for the info Bob!.....maybe i can ask a local Home Depot to make a large order. I know they sell it at Home Depot in So Cal.
4 hours round trip....ouch....and gas...and i have to load 65 lb bags...... i'm too lazy for that hahahahaha. I have amazon prime so delivery to my door is free I've seen it retail for $50 in California.....i pay $15 over retail and its delivered so not too bad...only thing that sucks is it usually takes 6 days to get to me.

[figgysid1]

I am using promix hp/bx (depending on what's in stock) coco coir fiber, coco coir chips, and #4 perlite (giant size). I mix 25% of each. I'm using it on everything.

I have to have very good drainage, because it rains 195 inches a year avg here. It rains 290 days out of the year. So far in 7 months since I started using this soil mix ratio, I have not watered anything else except for cuttings to get them to root. That looks like a good soil mix for people living in rainforests.

[figgysid1]

I think I moved here in May 2015, I have since realized that the land was cheap because it's swampland... So to counteract the swampyness, I made 10-12 foot high, 25-30 feet wide raised beds of soil and rocks about 600 feet long, to get above the water level. I'm currently planting 600 fig trees in the ground, on top of the raised beds. I have another 600 fig trees in greenhouses. The 600 I'm planting in ground are all over 1 year old in 5 and 10 gal pots, 4ft-8ft tall. Go big, or go home I say.

[Harborseal]

Nice, figgysid1

[fitzski]

I like that "go big or go home"

share some photos if you get a chance. People would love to see your fig garden

[COGardener]

I can not buy it in my area, and shipping is way to much!

[Q*]

They dont sell it at stores in Arizona either. I order mine on amazon....shipped to the door its about $60-65 total for a 3.8 cubic foot(65 lb bag) compressed.....its pricey...but you never get mold or bugs with it. So to me its worth it.....

[Thepodpiper]

Here in mich at the hydro stores you can get it for around 25 bucks for a 3.8

[Harborseal]

COGardener, call one of these guys, tell them you have a small orchard and you sell plants and scion. Apply for an account, check their delivery terms. My local small wholesaler has a minimum of $300 for delivery. If I qualify, they deliver. If not, I drive to Topeka and pick it up. Sometimes they have to special order what I want and that can take weeks. I typically buy at least 5 at a time.

For some reason, if I try to paste the address here it destroys the formatting. I'll try in comments and if that fails I'll go with new posts.

For those of you in similar straits (Looking at you, Q* ), here's the page you can go to and find the distributors in your area.

http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/distributors/?type=pro

It defaults to pro but click on the indoor gardening selection near the top to see more places that carry or can order their stuff for you.

[Harborseal]

BWGS Worm's Way

11685 E 55th Avenue
Denver (CO) United States
80239

Phone: (303) 374-3559

Email: [email protected]

[Harborseal]

Sunlight Supply Inc - Denver

3550 Odessa Way
Aurora (CO) United States
80011

Phone: (303) 606-7387

https://www.sunlightsupply.com/shop/bybrand/premier-horticulture

[fitzski]

thanks for helping out, Bob.

[jmaler]

Harborseal is this the Pro-Mix you are recommending? It has HP on the side and BX on the front. http://www.amazon.com/Premier-Hortic.../dp/B009YTTDI8

[Harborseal]

The photo is odd but that product is the BX, not the HP. If you look at the photo in the link below you'll see it only says HP.

[Harborseal]

No, this one - the HP not the BX.

http://www.amazon.com/Premier-Horticulture-3-8CF-Biofungicide-Mycorrhizae/dp/B009YTTD0G

Or

http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/pro...s-mycorrhizae/ Newer packaging.

[jmaler]

Thank you! This is so confusing. Now I will order...........

[Thepodpiper]

Lots of the local nurseries around me make there own mediums and in most of the stores there blends resemble pro-mix very much the only difference i could see when using it is most did not hold the moisture as well.