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  • Mike51050
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    Update,on the amount of time to submerge a 1 month figpop with roots in a measuring cup for bottom watering is 10 -15 seconds,which allows Approximately 1 ounce of water into the bottom of the figpop.Use your judgement for the amount of water you allow in the bottom of the bag.

  • Figs4All
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    Hi everyone. Thank you for all your advice. I am going to try many of your suggestions. Up pot some, water from the bottom for some, etc. I am also going to try banana grafting per the post below which I am very excited about.

    https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-h...ock#post699684



    Last edited by Figs4All; 01-25-2020, 09:11 PM.

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  • Figs4All
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    I watered some of the dry pops by poking holes in the bottom and weighing them before and after. It is difficult to control the water flow so I had to keep putting the pops on a scale. It seems to be working well so far. Thanks for the advice.

  • ginamcd
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    These will trap adults (and are a good early warning signal), but if you start seeing greater numbers on the traps, you need to start treating your soil. Each adult gnat is capable of laying over 200 eggs which will hatch in about five days. So for each adult on your sticky trap, you potentially have 200 larva that will soon be feasting on your roots. Look into BTi products (not just BT).

  • Figs4All
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    Good to know this works well. Thanks!

  • Rico891
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    10g of water sound about right, If you don't have holes in the plastic and there isn't much evaporation, you may not even need 10g. I tried soaking my pops in a large glass of water for 5 - 10 seconds. It was too difficult to control the amount of water. Injecting water through the plastic maybe the way to go -- but ONLY if water is needed !

  • Figs4All
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    AskPete posts have been very helpful. I am experimentimg with similar ratios of growing medium to water.

  • Figs4All
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    Thanks for the advice. I am very concerned about watering. I am planning to water from the bottom and will use a scale to measure how much is addded and keep track of the figs health. Maybe 10 grams to start out with.

  • Figs4All
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    Thanks. The more roots the merrier

  • Figs4All
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    Thank you. It is good to know the fig pops can be left for so long. Interesting pictures. It looks like you are training the one in the tree pot with wire. What shape are you wanting to end up with?

  • Mike51050
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    Right now I don’t have a nat problem,but I have 1 pad right buy my figpop bins

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  • Mike51050
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    I use those yellow sticky pads that nycfig sells on figbid.

  • Mike51050
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    Look on ASCPete profile,he recommends, if you use pro mix 5 parts ,Calcined clay 1,perlite 1,small pine bark 1, and rich mulch 1.he also recommends 5:1 ratio 5 parts of medium to 1 part water for fig pops medium. Mix it up so when you grab a handful of the medium it looks like dog dodo, the medium will hold together,but will fall apart easily. If water squishes out of it in your hand it’s to much water. Works for me everytime. Sometimes other brands of Sphagnum moss will need more parts to get the needed texture.Seriously it literally feels and looks like a dry dog dodo. Lol,Mike
    Last edited by Mike51050; 01-22-2020, 02:09 PM.

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  • Rico891
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    I've been using a weight ratio of 1:1 dry media to water. This works well to get the figs to "pop". Adding more water, after about 10%-20% weight loss, has been a real problem with many figs lost. I don't know what to advise, except to be careful about overwatering, and treating gnats quickly if you see any. Not too much light or heat. May the force be with you !

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  • Mike51050
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    The more there’s a larger mass of roots,it’s easier to up pot.When you cut your fig pops bag from the bottom n up one side to up pot the root mass holds your medium in place to up pot. (Just like Ben’s youtube video on fig pops)The only exception would be medium such as DE,that tends to fall apart sometimes (that could damage your fig pop roots). That’s why my fig pops medium is the same as my growing medium. But different medium works for other people.Mike

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  • Mike51050
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    I’ve had some T/C figs from Wellsprings on eBay still in their bags for over a year,but they don’t grow fast,you could introduce low levels of fertilizer also,but they will take off on you. I’m also interested in Bonsai,MikeClick image for larger version

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  • Figs4All
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    Thanks. I am liking the bottom watering idea. SubmarinePete also mentioned this. It delivers moisture to the bottom of the bags which is dryer - that seems efficient. Also, the top of the bags could remain closed.

  • Mike51050
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    Here’s what I’ve done in the past with figpops like yours. We took a toothpick n poked four holes in the very bottom of the figpop bag,(where the bag sits,2 holes on each side of the seam in the uline bags)) every 2-3 days I would use a container like a large plastic measuring cup from the dollar store, place water in the measuring cup and place the uline bag in the water for 30seconds to1:00 minute,Look at how much water is being allowed in the bottom of the uline bag. (You will see the potting medium darken with incoming water) not much 1/8 inch,easy way to water uline bags figpop with roots. Very small amounts water every 2-3 days. I only allow my fig pops to have morning sun or indirect light in zone 5b in our house.No lights n no heat mats.when the uline bag is filled with the roots,we up pot them.oh, my medium for my fig pops,is the 5-1-1-1-1 that ASC Pete recommends for potting medium. Good luck,Mike
    Last edited by Mike51050; 01-21-2020, 09:46 PM.

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  • Figs4All
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    Thank you

  • JCT
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    I wouldn't cut a slit, you may let gnats in. Poke holes like SubmarinePete mentioned

  • Figs4All
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    Thank you, Otis. yes, these are some great tips from everybody. I have had some failed attempts at a few methods and suffered from up-potting and watering-in woes. I read a lot about fig pops before I tried this and learned from AscPete posts about how much water to add to the media initially. He suggested a 5:1 ratio of dry media volume to water volume, which seems to be a sweet spot. I am experimenting near that ratio. I am at a tricky spot now. I believe my eagerness had me start too early, and I should have kept the cuttings in the ice box until January or February before starting fig pops. But I am curious to see where I end up with these figs. It is an opportunity to learn more and experiment, which is the spice of life.

  • Figs4All
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    Hi there in Fairfax VA. I am in Alexandra Va. Thanks for your advice. I suppose tree pots could be an option and I could expand my grow light set up. If I did this next year I think I would start in February and keep the cuttings in the fridge until then. Then I could go directly from the fig pop to tree pots in April without opening the bags or watering. Lesson learned.

  • Otis
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    They look great now. I failed miserably at my first figpop try. Just got them too wet and I had to 'up pot' sooner than I wanted to. They're all still hanging in there, but 1 of the 4 have stalled for over a month now and a second one has some weird peeled bark on the stem, (I've got a thread on that one elsewhere on the forum). You have some good tips to try so I wish you the best of luck raising those babies to trees.

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  • SubmarinePete
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    Originally posted by Figs4All View Post

    I don't have a lot of space, so I can't up-pot these figs until April when I can do it outside.

    * How should I determine if they need more water?
    * How much water should be added?
    * Should I remove the rubber band and open the bags?
    * Is there a greater risk of the figs dying if I keep the fig pops in their bags from now until April?
    * Should I consider trying to make the figs go dormant until the spring? I have a room at 55 deg f I could put them in.
    * other considerations?

    Thank you fig community!
    Personally, I wouldn’t try leaving the cuttings in figpop bags until April. I just use the figpop for growing roots. You could water the figpops but I would just move them to a treepot with 5-1-1 or similar potting mix and water the treepots as necessary. 4x4x9 tree pots don’t take up a lot of room if that’s what you’re worried about. I usually move mine out of the figpop before they need water. If they do need water, I poke holes in the bottom and water from the bottom, but you could use the top if you wanted. I also wouldn’t lower the temperature yet. I’d let them get established before considering that. You might not need to lower the temperature. I’d just wait and see how fast they grow. Mine usually grow pretty slow until I put them in larger pots in the greenhouse.

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