Very disappointed in the shipment I just received from Treesofjoy.com

[chadspur]

I figured since it was $45+$15 shipping, it would be a good size tree. I was very mistaken. It's a recently rooted cutting. For reference, the one on the left was $10 +$15 shipping from fruitnut432 on Ebay.

http://i.imgur.com/DFtfisn.jpg

[COGardener]

The variety usually has a lot to do with the price regardless of size.

[quackmaster]

Bass sells good quality trees, and like stated variety has a lot to do with it. He is not pulling a fast one on you, that's for sure.

[FarmerGreg]

I would suggest you contact him directly.

[HarveyC]

Based on your comment last week in your prior thread that you were looking forward to getting another Ronde de Bordeaux, I'm assuming that is what your smaller tree is from TOJ. But comparing a tree purchased at a fixed price to one which you won on eBay at what I consider a cheap bargain price is not really a fair comparison. I can't think of anybody who grow out a RdB to the size of fruitnut with the expectation of getting only $10 for it. I suggest you send him another $50 so that you can feel better about it.

[Bluemalibu]

Yes, Steve (fruitnut432) sets an extremely high bar... if other sellers matched his quality trees, we would all be in tall cotton.

[chadspur]

I would suggest you contact him directly.

No real point. Size was not listed on the site so I'm not going to request a refund. I just assumed with the price I'd get an established tree. I found it helpful when I was searching for merchants online to see what people received. That's the main purpose I posted this.

[LouNeo]

Just out of curiosity, what variety was the TOJ tree? I dont think I saw it mentioned.

[chadspur]

Just out of curiosity, what variety was the TOJ tree? I dont think I saw it mentioned.

Both trees in the picture are Ronde de Bordeaux.

[LouNeo]

I wish some sales sites had a bit more information on them in regards to managing expectations of what you will be getting. I called around recently looking for some "trees", talking to nurseries all over the country and their "trees" ranged from rooted cuttings on up to 4' whips. It would be nice if sites said the size range of the trees you would be getting so as to manage your expectations a little bit better. Either you wont order it because its too small or you will order it knowing what you are getting and not have the shock of opening the box and wondering where the rest of the plant went. I too had a slightly similar experience recently when I opened a box with a couple trees in it and wondered why I paid for a "tree" when they were cuttings that look like they have been rooted for about 3 weeks just popping their first leaves. Im sure it will catch up quick, the other tree is a nice tree and you got a great deal on it. Average em out and I think you are still where you probably should be investment wise Good luck with it.

[Admin IT]

I would recommend asking about the size of the tree before you purchase and not criticize TOJ for not living up to "your expectations". I'll buy from TOJ anytime and I know I will be very satisfied as I have always been in the past.

[chadspur]

I would recommend asking about the size of the tree before you purchase and not criticize TOJ for not living up to "your expectations".

Live and learn, but this is helpful information for those looking for it.

[chadspur]

Im sure it will catch up quick, the other tree is a nice tree and you got a great deal on it. Average em out and I think you are still where you probably should be investment wise Good luck with it.

I'm hoping it stays alive. There wasn't much to the root mass when I transfered it to a pot. I've placed it in partial shade for now.

[silveradocanman]

Come on guys, I don't think he's overstating or over reacting. Who out of this group would have $60 for that small, little RdB? It certainly is way over market value, I'd be disappointed too.

[SarinaP]

I agree--one of the things I like best about this forum is that we can say how we really feel without getting jumped on. He was disappointed, he wanted to let others know to expect rooted cuttings of a particular size, of the RdeB, from that seller. That's it.

[don_sanders]

I can see how it wouldn't live up to your expectations. I would have expected the $45 tree to look like the $10 one and vice versa. I've never ordered from there but have only heard good things in the past and probably wouldn't have thought to ask either.

[greenfig]

Wow, $45. RdB should be much cheaper. It is a good fig but it grows so fast that those little guys you see in the photo will be 6 ft tall with multiple branches by the fall. Good luck with them!

[Jaylyne]

thanx for the heads up... bummer that happened to you

[The_Gardener]

To me, the one on the left is a 45$ tree, and the one on the right is a $10 tree.

[WillsC]

I actually agree.....that is a VERY high price for a RDB and for it to be that small I would have been disappointed also. In a 1 gallon pot I sell them for $20.......

[Brian M]

I would definitely be shooting an email that way asap.

[chadspur]

. In a 1 gallon pot I sell them for $20.......

Ouch....I should have looked around a bit more.

[HarveyC]

Prices for RdB have dropped a lot in the past few years but some people still are willing to pay pretty high prices, but prices are highly variable, even on eBay with auctions by the same seller. Ray (plantcreator) got a high price of $88 for a smaller tree than what Steve sold for $10:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronde-de-Bordeaux-fig-tree-plant-/252330714000?hash=item3ac0152390%3Ag%3A6n0AAOSwJQdW80ex&nma=true&si=XbNxIxYTt4jEz%252BYGcn5v%252BrSCh64%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

But he then only got $14.99 for a slightly smaller tree about 2 weeks later:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronde-de-Bordeaux-fig-tree-plant-/262378490045?hash=item3d16fa08bd%3Ag%3AET8AAOSw-RRXCWCo&nma=true&si=XbNxIxYTt4jEz%252BYGcn5v%252BrSCh64%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Ray doesn't even have pretty fruit photos to entice his buyers with.

I don't see where anybody has claimed that Chad was overstating or over-reacting. I think it would have been ideal to communicate more with Bass before the purchase and, in the absence of that, after delivery before posting something derogatory. Last week when he had concerns about when his tree would be delivered it was suggested then that he contact Bass and I think the same advice would have been appropriate before posting about his disappointment. As I mentioned previously, I also think that comparing to a tree that seems to have been an extreme bargain at $10 is inappropriate.

I think Bass had a major role in RdB becoming as popular as it is today and he has a large following so he is still able to get pretty high prices for it. Being in a northern climate, his trees at this time of year are further behind than someone in the south.

As always, anything is worth what someone is willing ot pay for it. It is good to get as much detail as your needs dictate and it's always good to shop around.

[silveradocanman]

"Derogatory", "inappropriate", "criticize", "not fair", 'you shoulda done this first', 'you shouldnt do that'... All were used to describe the OP.

Again, he was not overstating or over reacting, just simply posting an honest and not exaggerated feeling of disappointment.

That's besides the point, I'm sure it will grow, and he will end up with a tree.

[HarveyC]

Not one of those phrases has any relation to someone saying the OP was overstating or over-reacting. Further, the only time "not fair" is used in this discussion is your latest post. You seem to have read more into the comments than what was written.

I've been a buyer hundreds of times. In the few times I had an issue, I only mentioned it to the seller and they stepped up and took care of the problem. In the few times I've had a problem with something I sold (damaged in transit), the buyer also let me know about it and gave me a chance to make it right. That's the way it should be, IMO. You can disagree and that's fine, you're as much entitled to your opinion as am I and the OP. I think the method I suggest has a much higher chance of success for both parties and I have extensive experience from which to base my opinion.

[silveradocanman]

I can agree to disagree, you're arguing semantics which is not the point.

further more... "is not really a fair comparison" came directly from your first post... not mine.

[HarveyC]

Oh, one more thing, I've probably bought 20 or so trees from Bass. I've not complained about the price even if something may have seemed a bit high. If he had what I wanted, I was glad it was available and just bought it. Sometimes I don't have the money to spend but I usually have enough money to have to not worry about regretting missing out on something I really wanted.

[don_sanders]

I think it's good to share our experiences, both good and bad, so we can all learn and make our own informed decisions.

[Figfanatic57]

I had purchased a figoin Aug/15 on eBay from Bass that was about 4 in tall. But now it is over 3 ft tall and I have 2 airlayers going. It is not always the size, but the variety.